The same goes for Poland.
There is sad,only partially untrue,joke about that:
1.Math in 1990:
Woodcutter cut 100 trees and sell them for 10$ each.Cost of cutting was 300$.How much he earn?
2.Match in 2020 - this is woodcutter.Paint him.
The Coming Far Right Backlash
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There is sad,only partially untrue,joke about that:
1.Math in 1990:
Woodcutter cut 100 trees and sell them for 10$ each.Cost of cutting was 300$.How much he earn?
2.Match in 2020 - this is woodcutter.Paint him.
Nope.And it started in commie times - people from pre-WW2 secondary school would knew as much as students from 1989 /not including new knowledge,of course/
But now it become worst - according to what i hear,people in modern secondary school could knew less them children from elementary schools in 1989.
So,joke is ,sadly,partially true.And it would be worst - in 2030 we would be probably "Paint him in lgbt rainbow"
Maybe WW3,no matter who win,is still best option.....
It should work,too.
Almost everytching/with exception of Moscov rule/ would be better.
If there was no other option,i would even kowtow to Pekin.
LordDemiurge
Well-known member
Out of curiosity what topics were they on? I thankfully escaped public education to go to a Charter School myself.
That's easy enough to solve.
Just keep changing the definition of recession so that your never in a recession.
LordDemiurge
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We are for the most part reaping the consequences of a general failure to actually craft a proper education system, and the development of an anti-family environment
Pedagogy, as in the actual discipline of teaching, has actually improved for the most part. Kids today as well have a significantly larger amount of homework they have to do.
I'm a resident of a state that isn't doing too badly in education, but I definitely saw signs of brain rot when I worked as a teacher's assistant at my elementary school. Teacher retention is difficult, on the account that the salary means you're at risk of being priced out of the area. To the point that it's speculated that Teachers might actually have to accept welfare as a fact of their livelihood.
More importantly the administration wastes money on things that don't actually improve education. These kids are legitimately being raised by their screens. They have to do everything online, and I had to spend those sessions constantly making sure they aren't watching youtube, playing games, or are on their food..
It sacrifices quality just for convenience.
With fifth graders in particular I found teaching certain concepts in math difficult because of this screen dependency. Keep in mind my assigned specialty was being the help for kids with special needs. I wasn't their primary overseer, mainly just the help.
But in general, I often found it easier to teach third graders tricks for solving math problems, because those kids actually had to write/draw the math itself.
With fifth grade students I tutored, many of them found it difficult to adjust to the fact that I demanded they needed to write down every step of their reasoning on paper in order to better remember it.
Also do you remember what I said about my speciality? I wasn't even a professional or someone who has any career experience in doing this.
The school doesn't even have a librarian position anymore. I've had to deal with kids who didn't speak a single word of English, because the funding for the school's ELL program got cut. We pretty much had to use other students as translators to handle them.
TLDR: We are in deep shit.
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Blasterbot
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I remember in highschool I was in special ed. I did more to help the kids in my studyhall pass their math classes than the special ed teacher. the kids in my class that were able to bug me to help them with homework consistently got Bs (80% or more). the ones who did not were consistently failing the classes.
I described the situation to a friend and he said I was a failure as a teacher since I couldn't teach the kids to love math. my response was you get an autist who only gives a shit about german history and Star Wars to care about polynomials.
my own thoughts are most teachers get in the profession with good intentions but are jaded and cynical after the 1st few years since the kids don't respect them. the worst teachers are the ones either in their 1st year when they don't understand how to wrangle the class or the last year when they just cannot care about any of the students.
8th grade math was the worst for me. guy was in his last year and had like a 3rd the grade based on note taking. which was just copying the overhead projector. which I never did. because it was dull and easy. and half the assignments was showing your work. which again I never did because who needs to go through 4x3+2(4-1) ones step at a time writing it out. side note he was a major factor in killing my enjoyment in math.
long ramble story is just that I would not trust a school with my kids. seriously. just home school.
I described the situation to a friend and he said I was a failure as a teacher since I couldn't teach the kids to love math. my response was you get an autist who only gives a shit about german history and Star Wars to care about polynomials.
my own thoughts are most teachers get in the profession with good intentions but are jaded and cynical after the 1st few years since the kids don't respect them. the worst teachers are the ones either in their 1st year when they don't understand how to wrangle the class or the last year when they just cannot care about any of the students.
8th grade math was the worst for me. guy was in his last year and had like a 3rd the grade based on note taking. which was just copying the overhead projector. which I never did. because it was dull and easy. and half the assignments was showing your work. which again I never did because who needs to go through 4x3+2(4-1) ones step at a time writing it out. side note he was a major factor in killing my enjoyment in math.
long ramble story is just that I would not trust a school with my kids. seriously. just home school.
The Iron Monocle
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History, English, Mathematics.
I went to a high school in the main city of a rural county in Washington state and was taking 'college track' courses. Which meant I actually had to take math past algebra and geometry (even the 'trades track' had to take those since the blue collar world actually used those). Heck, general graduation requirements at my high school required one semester of 'Money Math' and 'Home Economics'. Basically, these were courses that taught you how to balance a checkbook, compound interest, how to repair a button/basic sewing, how to not burn down your kitchen, and just general skills on how to live on your own.
So imagine my shock 20 years later when my friend is helping his son with his high school homework and just from a brief cursory look at those school books I could tell the level of knowledge was what I was learning in middle school. And this was still Washington state, albeit a county that relied on the military for the majority of its employment. So the local school system had a heavily transient student base due to that. So standards were rather reduced
Agent23
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Well, a dumbed down population is easier to control.
Only true to a certain extent people are smart enough to know when their being fucked over.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Except for the leftists.
Ideology doesn't feed a hungry belly.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
No, it doesn't. But leftists themselves at least will always blame other people for their own failings.
Typhonis
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So will children.
Rather their cultist.Their leaders are well avare of fact,that they are building new soviet union with bigger green gulags.
They simply belive,that they could control survivors for eternity as new rulig class.
And they could be right.If that happen,see you in massgrave !
Rather their cultist.Their leaders are well avare of fact,that they are building new soviet union with bigger green gulags.
They simply belive,that they could control survivors for eternity as new rulig class.
And they could be right.If that happen,see you in massgrave !
Im pretty sure they will fuck it up because command economies are simply put that shit, and because they piss people off so much that you get a rather consistant stream of defectors.
I hope so.Besides,even if they win in USA and Europe,i am fairly sure,that China ,India and muslim states would not agree to become their lapdogs.