Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]

Paladin Wulfen

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Depends on how which horse Mr.House decides to back when the wolves are at the door. Odds are that his substantial security systems is still online and one way or another fully under his control. Add that into all the pull a control freak like him will have in the area and thinks will get interesting.

Yeah and don't forget the Kimball Line... AA lasers, robotic divisions, literally... Tobruk
 

Navarro

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Blah blah blah ....

Redid the pic for the Columbia class BBs, w/ specs:

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Columbia-Class Heavy Battleship

Displacement: 102,000 tons
Length: 300 metres
Beam: 40 metres
Draft: 12 metres
Power and Propulsion: 8x General Atomics N5GA fusion plants, powering four MHD drives. Two rudders provide steering.
Speed: 35 knots
Range: Unlimited, operational service lifetime of reactors 100 years.
Complement: 2500 USN personnel, 150 USMC security personnel
Armament:
4x3 18" railcannons in triple-turret config, plasma, kinetic, nuclear shells
8x 8" LRAS (Long Range Attack System) railcannons; plasma, kinetic shells
4x 8" CRAS (Close Range Attack System) railcannons; plasma, kinetic shells
20x 5" Mk. 75 railcannons; kinetic, high-explosive shells
32x LAM-90 Lightning Strike cruise missile launchers
26x heavy AA defence laser systems
52x light AA defence laser systems
1x ASROC Mk. 32 ASW system
1x torpedo launcher system
Armour: 45" WW2-era steel equivalent; in actuality 15" of duraframe.
 
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SuperHeavy

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Complement: 2800 USN personnel, 150 USMC security personnel
Just a suggestion but you might want to knock a couple hundred crew off the complement. Fallout automation should be if anything better than what we have today. Looks cool as hell though.
 

Navarro

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Just a suggestion but you might want to knock a couple hundred crew off the complement. Fallout automation should be if anything better than what we have today.

Yeah, did that issue.

Looks cool as hell though.

Looks even cooler now, I'd say. I wanted to do it from scratch at first but it was too much hassle and reworking the Montana-based image I'd already done proved to be easier.
 

Navarro

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An Osprey-class Frigate, used by the USN and USCG for littoral warfare, ASW, search-and-rescue and patrol duties:

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And a Potomac-class gunboat, used by the USN for brown-water actions and patrols:

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Navarro

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I mean you probably want to cut down the pauldrons by about 2/3s, internalize those hoses, and armor up that midsection. Lord only knows many US soldiers died when their air supply was comprised thanks to exposed rubber tubing. Just look at this thing, it is waiting for a ricochet or shrapnel to cause problems.
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If you look at the Hellfire suits there's barely any tubing and it doesn't seem to be related to the breathing systems. They're working on it!

But an E-US division, regiment, battalion, platoon, or squad would still wreck any equivalent modern force. No contest (a Brotherhood one would do similarly and an NCR one would have a 75% or so chance of beating modern counterparts).

Shame its bullets will just bounce off American duraframe.

Just a note on this - like the IRL material I based it on, a plate of duraframe less than an inch thick will shatter a 7.62mm armour-piercing bullet fired at it. So even E-US' National Guard troops - its second-stringers usually put on garrison and policing duties - will be walking around a modern warzone practically immune to small arms fire.

Depends on how which horse Mr.House decides to back when the wolves are at the door. Odds are that his substantial security systems is still online and one way or another fully under his control. Add that into all the pull a control freak like him will have in the area and thinks will get interesting.

Heh, Mr. House is a sharp player, but he's also walking a tightrope. And he knows it.

It's just marked like that on the map because the Lone Star Republic voted to rejoin the Union.

Well, technically they voted in a pro-American President, then there was a coup and civil war, and then when US troops entered Austin they installed another pro-American President who agreed to reintegration with their tanks already trundling through the city. But it's the thought that counts, you know?

Credit to whoever made this because it immediately brought forth long forgotten memories of middle school geography. I can smell plastic and old glue of the book this would come from.

Glad I could bring that to. One of the reasons I did it as an IU was that I wanted to show E-US' perspective on the world; their refusal to acknowledge "the rebels" politically, their view of themselves as an island of civilisation in a sea of barbaricum/"wilderness", their pride in the extension of the lands they claim etc. I might do an NCR version to show their POV as well too.
 

AspblastUSA

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I might do an NCR version to show their POV as well too.

I'd love to see that, especially given we already have an actual map of North America floating around here somewhere. It's fascinating to see where both sides diverge from the reality of the situation, and seeing where their collective half-truths and delusions overlap would be fascinating.
 

SuperHeavy

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If you look at the Hellfire suits there's barely any tubing and it doesn't seem to be related to the breathing systems. They're working on it!
I feel the Hellfire and Hellcat suits are what happens if the PA industry had a proper R&D loop going. Exposed hoses are removed and weak points in the joints, especially the neck, are better covered as combat reports highlight weaknesses. The armor itself gets heavier as anti-PA weapons get developed en-mass and more functionality is added. In essence they are to the old T-45 armor as the T-64 tank is to the WWII T-34/85.This is too many ts.
 

Navarro

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I feel the Hellfire and Hellcat suits are what happens if the PA industry had a proper R&D loop going. Exposed hoses are removed and weak points in the joints, especially the neck, are better covered as combat reports highlight weaknesses. The armor itself gets heavier as anti-PA weapons get developed en-mass and more functionality is added. In essence they are to the old T-45 armor as the T-64 tank is to the WWII T-34/85.This is too many ts.

Another issue is that by the time Hellfire is developed, fighting enemy PA is a serious possibility that has to be taken into account (also why E-US uses both lasers and plasma). And of course in this TL they get the breathing room they never really had otherwise so they iterate on the X-02 and Hellfire designs, smooth out other problems, and get 50 years of R&D in relatively relaxed conditions.
 

Navarro

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I found this on the internet and thought it would make a good Enclave Propaganda Poster.

Yep, that's the sort of thing you see a lot of on E-US city streets. Along with fearmongering about murderous rebels, and generic military propaganda stuff, the "continuity since 1776" symbolism is really common in DPI messaging (to the point that whenever possible Federal or local government agencies, offices and such are literally based out of the same buildings they were pre-War).
 

DarthAwesome

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Both halves of the SS Sao Paulo rose high into the air, outlined brilliantly by the silver moonlight, before crashing into the freezing waves; of a crew of a hundred and fifty, only twenty would make it safe to shore, drifting through the darkness in the lifeboats that had managed to get away.
YOU IDIOTS! YOU ANGERED THE BRAZILIANS! NOW YOU MUST GO TO BRAZIL, OR THEY SHALL GO TO YOU!
 

Navarro

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No update sadly, guess this'll have to do for ya:

Official uniform of the Presidential Guard, consisting of the First Company of the elite "Richardson" First Secret Service Regiment, approximately three hundred strong in light of their extended duties. The Presidential Guard is tasked with securing the White House and its immediate grounds while maintaining an at least fire-team sized deployment within sight of the President and select members of the First Family at all times. The Secret Service has other duties in regards to special forces activity, but this duty remains their most cherished and their most important. The uniform, along with that of the Secret Service in general, retains the black used in combat and power armour colour schemes during the era of ENCLAVE continuity operations as a sign of mourning, while incorporating the red of sacrifice and the gold of honour.

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Navarro

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A picture of the M84 Reagan, a new model of light tank undergoing trials with the US Army in South Carolina and expected to soon replace the M72 Lafayette. It incorporates a 105mm autoloading railcannon, allowing for a higher RoF with its main gun, and has as secondary armament a plasma repeater in the interests of higher levels of firepower against powered infantry.

Made by Aegis Defence Industries and already being nicknamed the "Ray-gun", the Reagan is named after the famous President of the late 20th century who completed the pivot Nixon began towards the People's Republic of China as the main Cold War adversary of the United States, who supported the rise of the ill-fated European Commonwealth as a bulwark against Soviet aggression and to relieve tensions within NATO, and whose trade deals with Canada helped paved the way to its incorporation almost a century later into the Union.

His involvement in the US Cavalry during the Second World War and close ties to California were additional reasons that his name was chosen; the Autumn was considered as another potential designation until higher-ups within the War Department ruled that the name was more fitting for the next generation of MBTs.

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