Um Shattner is not a Boomer. Shattner is from the Silent Generation.
Part of the joke I'm pretty sure. All old people are Boomers apparently including Mike from the video... Even though he used to be the same age as Jay.
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Part of the joke I'm pretty sure. All old people are Boomers apparently including Mike from the video... Even though he used to be the same age as Jay.
The Covert Conspiracy to smuggle James Doohan's (Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott on the The Original Star Trek) ashes onto the International Space Station revealed!
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A secret mission to give Star Trek’s James Doohan a celestial resting place has been revealed after 12 years
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I really don't understand the optimism people have for upcoming shows like "Strange New Worlds." It seems to me that a lot of people who I see criticizing STD, or, at least admit the show could be better, seem to be misidentifying what exactly the problems with the show are. It's true that there's the window dressing issues of what things look like, and it does just add to the list of things wrong with the show (along with STP, for that matter), but the main ideas I see getting tossed around are "it's too dark and gritty" and "it's too serialized." These are not what the main problems are - DS9 was dark and gritty, and executed serialized stories quite well, and even ENT was at its most popular during a season-long story-arc that got pretty dark and gritty. The obsession with the idea that going back to self-contained episodes and/or trying to be bright and optimistic again is exactly the same misunderstanding with what made TNG work that resulted in the mediocrity that was VOY and the first two seasons of ENT. No, the main problems with new Star Trek are that it takes its audience for granted, and that the writing is just plain horrible. It has some of the most cringe-worthy lines spoken by cardboard-cutout characters meant to "represent" groups of people, written by people who have no understanding of science but who have had the idea that it's cool and important drilled into their heads from a young age. They have no understanding of what makes characters interesting, or how to make them unique and memorable, how to write interesting, compelling stories, or even how to make a basic story structure. STD's main character is a Sue, and all of the new shows made by Secret Hideout are just a soapbox with which to preach regressive left politics, as admitted by the people running the shows themselves. The politics are always going to outweigh story, which is why the story is always going to be sub-par, no matter if they promise to drop the grim-dark and go back to episodic story-telling like SNW is supposed to be or not - it's made by the same people. I mean, I bash on Abrams Trek, too, for being dumbed down dumb action movies, but while they were vacuous style-over-substance popcorn movies sold entirely on nostolgia while trying to seem "cool" and "hip" to the young crowd, at least they generally weren't trying to preach politics at you. At worst, they were just the generic good guys vs. bad guys stories that are made for "general audiences."
The excuses for "Lower Decks" are also some of the lamest things I've ever seen, too. From the trailers, it was pretty obvious that this was made for grown-ups who are at least pop-culture familiar with Star Trek and its various tropes, not to mention the jokes involving adult situations, but this has somehow shifted to "it's intended to attract children to the franchise." Not only is this a bald-faced lie, but it's also extremely patronizing to kids. Many, many people got into Star Trek as kids, as in TOS, TNG, DS9, and such, and then quite a few of them were inspired to go on to be engineers and scientists and the like, yet starting with VOY, it seems like there's been this attitude pervading the writers' room that the people watching the show are stupid, even when they'd turn around and brag about all the smart people who were inspired to go into STEM fields because of Star Trek. This seems to be an attitude that has continued, or is otherwise excused by rationalizing it as a way of making it more appealing to a wider audience (because the general audience is stupid, apparently). Of course, I also suspect at least some of it is because the people writing these shows aren't terribly bright themselves... 😏
Anyway, I continue to be pessimistic about the current state of Star Trek as well as its foreseeable future. The only way any improvement is going to happen is if Secret Hideout loses Star Trek and some people who actually give a shit about it and actually know how to write are put in charge of the franchise. I mean, is anyone else curious what Nick Meyer might have come up with? What's Manny Coto up to these days?
The excuses for "Lower Decks" are also some of the lamest things I've ever seen, too. From the trailers, it was pretty obvious that this was made for grown-ups who are at least pop-culture familiar with Star Trek and its various tropes, not to mention the jokes involving adult situations, but this has somehow shifted to "it's intended to attract children to the franchise." Not only is this a bald-faced lie, but it's also extremely patronizing to kids. Many, many people got into Star Trek as kids, as in TOS, TNG, DS9, and such, and then quite a few of them were inspired to go on to be engineers and scientists and the like, yet starting with VOY, it seems like there's been this attitude pervading the writers' room that the people watching the show are stupid, even when they'd turn around and brag about all the smart people who were inspired to go into STEM fields because of Star Trek. This seems to be an attitude that has continued, or is otherwise excused by rationalizing it as a way of making it more appealing to a wider audience (because the general audience is stupid, apparently). Of course, I also suspect at least some of it is because the people writing these shows aren't terribly bright themselves... 😏
Anyway, I continue to be pessimistic about the current state of Star Trek as well as its foreseeable future. The only way any improvement is going to happen is if Secret Hideout loses Star Trek and some people who actually give a shit about it and actually know how to write are put in charge of the franchise. I mean, is anyone else curious what Nick Meyer might have come up with? What's Manny Coto up to these days?
The story is from January the 5th of this year but apparently it's very unconfirmed but while Avery Brooks has apparently been busy in his post-acting career focusing on his music and theater, according to Cirroc Lofton (who played Jake Sisko on Deep Space Nine) Avery Brooks was allegedly blacklisted from Hollywood for some reason to the point that he doesn't even have an Agent which explains his apparent utter lack of a film or television career as of late.
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Sounds like he refused to take the ticket and provide kompromat on himself at one of those parties.
I mean, the guy did come off as crazy when Shatner interviewed him for that one documentary, but I can see him burning bridges for being hard to work with and/or that whole "I would've quit if it weren't for a promise to my son" thing (although that was before the writers really got the character to align with Brooks' strengths).
Mmmm this makes me want to actually watch it now. From what I heard William Shatner's Captains documentary was more about Shatner and less about the supposed actual topic of the film, interviewing the other Trek Captains.
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Well it is Shatner. And having seen it, that’s not entirely wrong but not completely right either.
It's been a while since I watched it, but I didn't think it was as bad as people say. It was still quite interesting to see, even though Shatner has an ego.
Anyone else excited to talk about Alex Kurtzman being given a five year contract extension (some would say a five year mission) for his exemplary work in Star Trek and it's Kelvin Timeline shenanigans?
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And look Trekfans, your getting TWO MORE new television shows because of this development!
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One set in Starfleet Academy!!!
Starwarts! Hogtrek?
Plus a Strange New Worlds spinoff starring Captain Pike... whatever that means. I haven't seen any of the new Trek stuff. I just felt compelled to share.
Also Wandavision Director Matt Shakman is directed a new Star Trek movie after Quentin Tarantino's efforts fell away. Basically the same level of quality though I'm sure.
ViacomCBS Extends Alex Kurtzman’s Contract As They Map Out Star Trek Universe Future On Paramount+
A future that could include a Worf-centric comedy.
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And look Trekfans, your getting TWO MORE new television shows because of this development!
Two more Star Trek shows are reportedly in the works – including one set at Starfleet Academy
Star Trek's television universe continues to grow
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One set in Starfleet Academy!!!
Starwarts! Hogtrek?
Plus a Strange New Worlds spinoff starring Captain Pike... whatever that means. I haven't seen any of the new Trek stuff. I just felt compelled to share.
Also Wandavision Director Matt Shakman is directed a new Star Trek movie after Quentin Tarantino's efforts fell away. Basically the same level of quality though I'm sure.
It's literally pre-TOS with Pike and Spock.
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Either Kurtzman has some absolutely killer blackmail material on ViacomCBS executives, or nobody in charge over there has any clue how to run a business. Here's a hint; it involves selling things people want to buy, not shaming them into buying things they don't want.Anyone else excited to talk about Alex Kurtzman being given a five year contract extension (some would say a five year mission) for his exemplary work in Star Trek and it's Kelvin Timeline shenanigans?
ViacomCBS Extends Alex Kurtzman’s Contract As They Map Out Star Trek Universe Future On Paramount+
A future that could include a Worf-centric comedy.
And look Trekfans, your getting TWO MORE new television shows because of this development!
Two more Star Trek shows are reportedly in the works – including one set at Starfleet Academy
Star Trek's television universe continues to grow
One set in Starfleet Academy!!!
Starwarts! Hogtrek?
Plus a Strange New Worlds spinoff starring Captain Pike... whatever that means. I haven't seen any of the new Trek stuff. I just felt compelled to share.
Also Wandavision Director Matt Shakman is directed a new Star Trek movie after Quentin Tarantino's efforts fell away. Basically the same level of quality though I'm sure.
They're already making season 3, and season 2 comes out soon.
They have at least one season 2 episode with a Tamarian (the Darmok guys who talk in memes).
I think it comes out this week.
Except Orville has been in hiatus for a while with no word on a release date.
Happy Star Trek Day nerds...
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Dunno why they went with a shittier version of the TOS designs than Discovery's. They just needed to lose the collars and it would've been fine.
‘Elite Force,’ ‘Bridge Commander’ And More Classic Star Trek PC Games Updated For Windows 10
Celebrate Star Trek Day with some old-school Activision Trek gaming at GOG.com.
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Meet The Cast Of ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’
The Star Trek Day video includes new cast members and a look at the redesigned uniforms.
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Full Length ‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Trailer Drops With Premiere Date
Stream 'Star Trek: Prodigy' on Paramount+ starting October 28th.
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Dunno why they went with a shittier version of the TOS designs than Discovery's. They just needed to lose the collars and it would've been fine.