Oh.
Huh interesting.
The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada
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Huh interesting.
Chaos Marine
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Man charged with first-degree murder after Toronto police officer killed near City Hall
A man has been charged with the alleged killing of a Toronto police officer Friday.
www.cp24.com
Anyone more familiar with Canada know why isn't the organization behind orange shirts and their flag legally considered some variation of extremist, anti government or hate group?
It is also telling that despite looking at several mainstream articles on the events none of them does the clearly journalistic work of you know, perhaps naming the clearly organized and identified groups involved in the event in case that their readers want to know such key details.
Took me a visit to a right wing and not so mainstream site to even see wtf this bunch is.
thepostmillennial.com
Such clear journalistic malpractice has made me interested in the reasons for it, and i think i dug out at least a bit of the stuff they would rather not publicize.
Having that name i could dig out some interesting stuff. Like said group (that dedication to wearing orange shirts make it really easy to tell its them) being in close cooperation with the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation, which sounds like a taxpayer founded outfit because it is one.
nctr.ca
What kind of cooperation? For one, making (re)educational materials for children.
www.canadashistory.ca
Expectedly, there is also a donation tab and a list of donors corporate and private.
Don't be confused by the URL though, it would be a weird name for an organization, fortunately they state wtf they really are right there:
And there you have it. It is a non-profit priding itself on doing politically charged educational work with government funded organizations. Of course it is not a kind of organization that sympathetic politicians would ever want to be seen disavowing for such inappropriate acts as their members or supporters vandalising the same government's property.
It is also telling that despite looking at several mainstream articles on the events none of them does the clearly journalistic work of you know, perhaps naming the clearly organized and identified groups involved in the event in case that their readers want to know such key details.
Took me a visit to a right wing and not so mainstream site to even see wtf this bunch is.
WATCH: Statues of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth toppled at Manitoba legislature
Statues of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II were toppled at the Manitoba legislature on Thursday afternoon by a large group wearing orange shirts.
Hmm, wonder why "respectable" news sources like Guardian and Sky News couldn't give enough of a damn to mention this key detail and just refer to this clearly defined organization as "protesters".
Such clear journalistic malpractice has made me interested in the reasons for it, and i think i dug out at least a bit of the stuff they would rather not publicize.
Having that name i could dig out some interesting stuff. Like said group (that dedication to wearing orange shirts make it really easy to tell its them) being in close cooperation with the National Center for Truth and Reconciliation, which sounds like a taxpayer founded outfit because it is one.
Every Child Matters 2020 - NCTR
Every Child Matters: Reconciliation Through Education Every Child Matters: Truth - Act One Every Child Matters: Reconciliation - Act Two French broadcast available here (video) (subtitled) Downloadable reduced-bandwidth version available here (English and French) An unprecedented online event...
nctr.ca
Every Child Matters: Reconciliation through education - Canada's History
This free magazine, which is based on the Seven Sacred Teachings, is aimed for students in grades 5–12. Each chapter teaches children about residential schools, Treaties, and the historic and current relationships between Indigenous and non-Indigenous peoples. Available in English and French.
My glance at the internet has also led me to this site that may or may not be abandoned, it is not very active but the YT channel of videos linked there still is.
Homepage - Orange Shirt Society
At the Orange Shirt Society, we grow awareness of the individual, family and community intergenerational impacts of Residential Schools
www.orangeshirtday.org
Don't be confused by the URL though, it would be a weird name for an organization, fortunately they state wtf they really are right there:
Orange Shirt Society
The Orange Shirt Society (Society) is a non-profit organization with its home in Williams Lake, BC where Orange Shirt Day began in 2013. The Orange Shirt Society was founded by Phyllis (Jack) Webstad...
www.orangeshirtday.org
And there you have it. It is a non-profit priding itself on doing politically charged educational work with government funded organizations. Of course it is not a kind of organization that sympathetic politicians would ever want to be seen disavowing for such inappropriate acts as their members or supporters vandalising the same government's property.
As someone who is of Native heritage, I call these other Natives fools. While I am also appalled at what happened at those boarding schools, the fact of the matter is, what they are doing is not in any way bringing the perpetrators of those crimes to justice. Furthermore, throwing in with communists as they have will only result in the destruction of their own culture in the end. There is a clear history of this from all communist regimes to destroy all cultures and to replace it with their own ideology. And there is a clear connection to the CCP because guess who's been agitating Canada about crimes against indigenous peoples lately?
Man charged with first-degree murder after Toronto police officer killed near City Hall
A man has been charged with the alleged killing of a Toronto police officer Friday.
Man Canada Day celebrations are weird af...
Libya used to be decent until Obama wrecked the place in 2011.
I went to a high school with a large Native population here in Ontario.
Many of my Native friends were pretty chill about the whole boarding school thing and they hadn't been indoctrinated in the least. Like, two of them would rather sit around and play Clash Royale than go listen to propaganda.
My own experience is pretty mixed. For the most part I am disheartened because there seems to be a large segment who identify with inner city "gangsta" culture and would rather embrace that than their own. And while it has been a while since I've been to the reservation, I would not be surprised if there was a large segment of communists among them now, and just ignore the fact that their so-called "comrades" ignore that they even exist unless they are in some way useful to the narrative. I keep going back to the Nick Sandman case and how all these people who were so outraged at that kid for committing the high crime of not moving and smiling at an old man who was obviously trying to intimidate him, yet completely ignored all the racist shit those Black Israelites said to the Natives who were there. Black>Native, apparently. Yet so many who are of the "social justice" bent do not see this.
A wholly different suspicious angle to this "children dying at residential schools" outrage being brought up now is a lack of historical context. Hundreds, even thousands of children dead? Even if spread over decades, in modern times that would make the school look like something straight out of worst third world countries, if not a murderous population control effort.
But if you account for the fact that these schools operated for around a century more or less in most mentions, and that includes also parts of the XIX century, if you look at how the world, especially new world frontier functioned health wise back then, it suddenly isn't so shocking.
Point being, up until about interwar part of the XX century it was typical for 20-30% of children born to die by the age of 5, mostly because of diseases, and for mostly the same reasons, additional 20-30% would die by the age of 15, which is more relevant to the residential schools in Canada. That's historical world average, not just Canada, not just native or boarding school rate. Those potentially were worse than average considering the nature of disease spreading in shared accommodations of any kind, but hard to say how badly that compares to alternatives, how much of it was some kind of malice, and how much just the era's not so modern medical care combined with the fact that the children were there at all, and as such, it would be where they would die.
Now back to XXI century, people see these numbers, find them shocking compared to what we're used to seeing now, and most people not being willing or able to consider the context of different era, they get outraged, some of them simply due to looking for things to be outraged about in the first place.
But if you account for the fact that these schools operated for around a century more or less in most mentions, and that includes also parts of the XIX century, if you look at how the world, especially new world frontier functioned health wise back then, it suddenly isn't so shocking.
Point being, up until about interwar part of the XX century it was typical for 20-30% of children born to die by the age of 5, mostly because of diseases, and for mostly the same reasons, additional 20-30% would die by the age of 15, which is more relevant to the residential schools in Canada. That's historical world average, not just Canada, not just native or boarding school rate. Those potentially were worse than average considering the nature of disease spreading in shared accommodations of any kind, but hard to say how badly that compares to alternatives, how much of it was some kind of malice, and how much just the era's not so modern medical care combined with the fact that the children were there at all, and as such, it would be where they would die.
Now back to XXI century, people see these numbers, find them shocking compared to what we're used to seeing now, and most people not being willing or able to consider the context of different era, they get outraged, some of them simply due to looking for things to be outraged about in the first place.
I think it's less the absolute numbers that died, and more that thier deaths were hidden/unreported till the graves were found, that is sparking the outrage.
Because if the schools had reported these deaths to the proper authorities, their may have been investigations the schools didn't want.
There were documented cases of abuse, the children were kidnapped from their parents, and in so many of these cases, all they did was kick the kid a a hole right there on school grounds and never even bothered to let the parents know their kid was dead. These are legit grievences. The issue is that this is being pushed largely by the CCP, which poisons the well, and the actions that these activists are being given free reign to do amount to acts of revenge which don't actually do anything to the people who actually committed these crimes. Furthermore, their alliance with the CCP will, in the long run, lead them to exactly the same place as far as being dehumanized and having their culture erased and people killed by an uncaring government.
King Arts
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I think you are being overly charitable to them. These people even if they are natives are not nationalists(tribalists?) of whatever native tribe they are part of. If they were were then you could have an argument about the merits of using this shit to destroy the nation and then in the chaos try and get sovereignty for their people or whatever. You could then argue whether that is a good thing or a bad thing if being under Canada but not independent is better or worse than being a "independent" native country but a Chinese puppet, whether it would work or not. But these people don't want that, these people don't have the patience or intelligence to try and think of long term like that.
No I think these people who tore down the statue are true believers of communism like they were taught at their universities. If you will forgive me for bringing up someone else Yuri Bezemenov had a video about these people and called them useful idiots. Now I don't know how much this SJW stuff is homegrown and the equivalent of a robot doing it's stupid programming left by the Soviets, or maybe the Chinese did hijack the programming, or are giving funds, or trying to fan the flames. It's possible they are, it's possible they aren't. However the fact that it's possible they are means it should be investigated especially since if I was Chinese I'd use this as a valuable opportunity to cause destabilization in an ally of a rival(U.S. is a rival of China, Canada is U.S. ally)
The reason I bring up why the Chinese would do this is not because they want to export Marxism, I mean it's possible they might. But no if I was Chinese I'd want to spread distrust and conflict against my rivals. And looking at some news I think it might be working.
Vancouver Island RCMP investigate totem pole arson
Mounties on Vancouver Island are investigating after a totem pole was set on fire in an apparent act of retribution for the toppling of a statue in Victoria just hours earlier.
Someone tried to destroy a tribal totem and said one statue, one totem. I'm not saying it IS a Chinese plot. But if it was, it would be ingenious and playing right into their hands.
Given it's China, and that they've funded such groups in the US meant to create social discord and chaos, and they're known to infiltrate Western institutions? I'd be as shocked as finding out that water is wet if they're involved.
Says the little Commie shits who are still imprisoning two Canadian citizens without any right to do so.
Yes.They should remember about Kazach example.First,they supported soviets - and Stalin thanked them by first genociding 30% of population,and later sending Kazach consprits in wave attacks to their death more then other nations.
Polish exiles send to Kazachstan wrote in their memories,that they waited for Hitler in 1942 - but idiot never come.
DarthOne
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To paraphrase Kissinger ‘it’s a shame the Nazis and Soviets couldn’t both lose’.
TheRomanSlayer
Unipolarists are the New Subhumans
Given that I live in BC, I don’t know how long these series of incidents involving church burnings will continue, though given the tragedy that is the residential school system, and the fact that I’m shocked to hear that China is constantly bugging Canada about this event is only being used to deflect from its own brutal treatment of the Uyghurs. That’s on top of what is happening with Meng Wanzhou.
f1onagher
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I thought they caught the main arsonist? Did the burning stop at ten or have there been more?