The White Russians offer Poland a return to its 1772 eastern borders in exchange for Polish military help in crushing the Bolsheviks

ATP

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It would be better for the Poles as well, who won't subsequently get Communism shoved down their throats for several decades. Not gaining the Recovered Territories is a small price to pay in comparison to that.

Maybe,maybe not.Russians could be genocidal without being soviets.
 

ATP

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It would be better for the Poles as well, who won't subsequently get Communism shoved down their throats for several decades. Not gaining the Recovered Territories is a small price to pay in comparison to that.

Against white Europeans, it's less likely. Unless we're talking about cultural genocide here, like with the Ukrainians.
Even when we were soviet-jewish colony/1945-56/ we still had church and private property.So,in our case,it was not so bad.

And,turks do not genocided armenians so much when they were ottomans,but did it as modern state.Russians could do the same.
 

WolfBear

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After they win war.Tsars after Ivan terrible coward do nod genocide anybody,but it could change.Sultans,after all,do not genocided nations,too.Till young turks take power.

What about the Hamidian massacres in the mid-1890s?
 

WolfBear

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They do not try kill all,like in 1915.

True, they were more ambitious in 1915 because of WWI and thus their greater paranoid about an immediate existential threat to them in Anatolia. You gotta remember that the 19th and early 20th century expulsions of Muslims from Circassia, the Caucasus, and the Balkans really fueled Ottoman paranoia that the same thing was going to happen to the Muslims of eastern Anatolia were Russia to ever conquer it. Very sad! :( Of course, it certainly doesn't justify or excuse what the Ottomans actually did in response to this. :(
 

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