Bigking321
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That's what the bill is trying to fix. Move it from a misdemeanor with a maximum punishment of a year to a felony.
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But if one applied their logic on actual crimes to their invented "hate crimes"...
SoliFortissimi
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Show me that law first.
Why do you think they love reeducation camps so much?
At any rate, yes, they're complete hypocrites. Comes natural when you're a moral crusader. Look at all those anti-gay pastors who get caught blowing some male hooker.
Umm...sometimes. And sometimes it's kids in cages getting raped till they die.
Bridge over Blue Mesa Reservoir closed indefinitely due to 3-inch-long crack in steel beam
The indefinite closure will create significant detours, adding up to seven hours of travel, for drivers between Gunnison and Montrose
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So this is going to really suck for a good chunk of the Central/Southern CO mountains and anyone who uses US 50 in the area regularly.
I know of exactly 1 way to route around this bridge that doesn't require going several hundred miles out of the way, and it is a dirt road that cannot take serious traffic.
Under existing state laws, soliciting or agreeing to engage in an act of prostitution is defined as a form of disorderly conduct, which is a misdemeanor. It's still a misdemeanor if the person solicited was a minor *and* the person doing the solicited "knew or reasonably should have known" that they were a minor, but in that case it's made a little tougher by a mandatory minimum of two days in county jail and a $10,000 fine. Two days doesn't sound like much, but that mandatory minimum is significant because it takes "no jail time" off the table, and this is still for a misdemeanor.
Keep in mind this is only for soliciting. No actual contact whatsoever, and for that matter no proof of actual intent. There isn't an existing law that specifically covers "purchasing" a child, that is simply considered a form of soliciting prostitution.
Now, the context this is being brought up in the news is that there's a bill in the California state Senate which would create a new criminal offense specific to this. SB 1414 is a bipartisan bill with the primary sponsors being one Republican and two Democrats, and the original bill that they proposed would have made solicitation a felony and eliminate the "knew or should have known" element, and impose a mandatory minimum sentence of two years and sex offender registration for ten years.
What's being argued about is that the Senate Public Safety Committee, which the bill falls under, pushed through an amendment to the bill under consideration which would instead make it a "wobbler", i.e. a misdemeanor under some circumstances and a felony under other circumstances. Specifically, the committee's version of the bill would make solicitation of a child fifteen or younger a felony in all cases, would apply the mandatory prison sentence only in cases where there was a previous conviction, and would retain the status quo misdemeanor statute for those between sixteen and eighteen. The bill's original sponsors are against this, so they're kicking up a lot of media attention.
This is not a "liberals versus conservatives" thing; again, two of the three sponsors of the bill are Democrats, and the committee's version still makes it a felony under the circumstances people are thinking of. It's not as harsh as the original but it is quite unreasonable to call it 'soft on crime'.
That's already a felony with very harsh circumstances. The difference is that solicitation does not require any actual contact or intent, and if this bill is passed in either the original form *or* the less harsh committee form, it would become a strict-liability offense.
Blasterbot
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Infrastructure everywhere is wearing down. people think this stuff can last forever but it won't. trying to build something new is gonna be expensive and take money away from foreign aid bills. so it will be left to rot.Bridge over Blue Mesa Reservoir closed indefinitely due to 3-inch-long crack in steel beam
The indefinite closure will create significant detours, adding up to seven hours of travel, for drivers between Gunnison and Montrose
So this is going to really suck for a good chunk of the Central/Southern CO mountains and anyone who uses US 50 in the area regularly.
I know of exactly 1 way to route around this bridge that doesn't require going several hundred miles out of the way, and it is a dirt road that cannot take serious traffic.
This will be handled mostly with state level funds, with some Federal aid because it is a US Highway. Might take 2-3 years, the place is kinda remote to get to for heavy equipment, and the middle of the narrows there are surprisingly deep.
US 50 connects DC and Sacramento, so it is one of the more important non-interstate routes in the US, and this route takes a lot of local commercial, private, and passenger vehicles across this part of the state/Southwest.
Only reason the crack was discovered was because of an infrastructure assessment that was being carried out.