To Hell With Space Elves: Misanthropy in Science Fiction

[Bear Ribs]

You've probably not read the two comics then. Although yes, humans in general are what is said and Puazi men are just as easily swayed by it as the females. The majority of the action is puazi females with human males.

I looked at one of the comics at least, which had a guy named Bob marry a Puazi. Of the encounters, three were same-sex (wife, daughter, and mother-in-law), one was guy on guy (Bob on son), one was a futa gangbang on the son, and two were futas on females (mother-in-law, one all-genders (including futas) orgy) one threesome (daughter, human guy, female human), and finally it ends with Bob's futa cousin moving in and cuckolding him with all the Puazi in the family. I wouldn't say the majority was female alien/human male unless you consider futas human males. Perhaps the other one had more.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

I looked at one of the comics at least, which had a guy named Bob marry a Puazi. Of the encounters, three were same-sex (wife, daughter, and mother-in-law), one was guy on guy (Bob on son), one was a futa gangbang on the son, and two were futas on females (mother-in-law, one all-genders (including futas) orgy) one threesome (daughter, human guy, female human), and finally it ends with Bob's futa cousin moving in and cuckolding him with all the Puazi in the family. I wouldn't say the majority was female alien/human male unless you consider futas human males. Perhaps the other one had more.

The cousin doesn't have sex with the daughter.

So I take it you are counting the threesome as not a female alien/human male for some reason? because the number you just counted out is female alien/human male: 4, female alien/human female: 1, and female alien/futa: 3. I don't understand how you are coming up with anything else?

And yes, the majority of the first comic is female alien/human male.

 

[Bear Ribs]

The cousin doesn't have sex with the daughter.

So I take it you are counting the threesome as not a female alien/human male for some reason? because the number you just counted out is female alien/human male: 4, female alien/human female: 1, and female alien/futa: 3. I don't understand who you are coming up with anything else?

And yes, the majority of the first comic is female alien/human male.

Well yes, as I said, the futa/gay content is as common as straight, which the numbers you have there bear out.

If two females are having sex, I don't personally consider that as straight sex, perhaps I'm just odd that way. Even if a male is involved I still class the females having sex with each other as having lesbian sex.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

Well yes, as I said, the futa/gay content is as common as straight, which the numbers you have there bear out.

If two females are having sex, I don't personally consider that as straight sex, perhaps I'm just odd that way. Even if a male is involved I still class the females having sex with each other as having lesbian sex.

Never mind. I apologize if I came off as too aggressive. Lets just agree to disagree on the matter.

 

[Bassoe]

The obvious implication is that we're dealing with sampling bias rather than the entire species being xenophilic perverts and this is actually a roundabout form of attack.

Imagine you're in charge of an interstellar civilization. Multiple colonized planets, even more space habitats, etc. Population in the trillions, minimum. And you want to conquer a planet full of aliens. Now sure, you could go with conventional tactics and almost definitively win since if you have the technology to travel to them, it's a safe bet to assume you drastically technologically outgun them, but you don't have to.

Considering the sheer size of your population, despite being a minuscule percentage of the total, the number of xenophilic perverts* you've got could very well outnumber the aliens you want to conquer.

So put an ad on your imperial equivalent of the internet asking for volunteers, then drop them on the alien planet.

They'll have happy, hedonistic relationships with the locals, which, on account of sharing less DNA similarities than sea cucumbers, produce no offspring. Because of the large number of individuals of your species peacefully interacting with the locals, they're a viable market, so the locals themselves will build species-specific infrastructure and agriculture for them. Then a generation later, you move your colonists in effectively unopposed.

* Be realistic people. If a UFO was to publicly land and the alien crew emerged in full view of the cameras of eyewitnesses, how long after the first pictures hit the internet would it take for the first rule 34 to be created? This goes doubly if they come out deathrays blazing.

 

[ATP]

The obvious implication is that we're dealing with sampling bias rather than the entire species being xenophilic perverts and this is actually a roundabout form of attack.

Imagine you're in charge of an interstellar civilization. Multiple colonized planets, even more space habitats, etc. Population in the trillions, minimum. And you want to conquer a planet full of aliens. Now sure, you could go with conventional tactics and almost definitively win since if you have the technology to travel to them, it's a safe bet to assume you drastically technologically outgun them, but you don't have to.

Considering the sheer size of your population, despite being a minuscule percentage of the total, the number of xenophilic perverts* you've got could very well outnumber the aliens you want to conquer.

So put an ad on your imperial equivalent of the internet asking for volunteers, then drop them on the alien planet.

They'll have happy, hedonistic relationships with the locals, which, on account of sharing less DNA similarities than sea cucumbers, produce no offspring. Because of the large number of individuals of your species peacefully interacting with the locals, they're a viable market, so the locals themselves will build species-specific infrastructure and agriculture for them. Then a generation later, you move your colonists in effectively unopposed.

* Be realistic people. If a UFO was to publicly land and the alien crew emerged in full view of the cameras of eyewitnesses, how long after the first pictures hit the internet would it take for the first rule 34 to be created? This goes doubly if they come out deathrays blazing.

Perfect explanation,and our aliens get rid of their weirdoss without killing them themselves.Especially,if for some reason gathering fleet to colonize would take 1-2 human generations anyway.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

But what if Humans were crosscompatible with every alien-species out there? Does the Imperium go "Well, uh... shit!" then?

 

[LindyAF]

tbh the fact that there's a handful of people whose porn addiction has left them with weird fetishes doesn't really mean much besides that. Yeah in a population of 6 billion you could probably find 100,000 people who'd fuck an alien snake, same as you could probably find the same number who'd fuck a non-alien snake or a tranny or a corpse.

 

[ATP]

But what if Humans were crosscompatible with every alien-species out there? Does the Imperium go "Well, uh... shit!" then?

Especially if hybrids always get best from both parents....Humanity rule,i quess.Even if each human would have wings,tentacles,or something else.

 

[DarthOne]

Especially if hybrids always get best from both parents....Humanity rule,i quess.Even if each human would have wings,tentacles,or something else.

Not quite sure I’d call them ‘human’. And real life doesn’t tend to work that way with hybrids. They usually have some sort of downside to them.

 

[Robovski]

Not quite sure I’d call them ‘human’. And real life doesn’t tend to work that way with hybrids. They usually have some sort of downside to them.

Like sterility.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Hybrid Vigor is a known thing. However, my limited layman's understanding is that normally it works between two limited breeding pools of the same species, as the genetic crossover cancels out any effects of inbreeding and produces a hybrid stronger than either parent. It's not a certainty even then and doesn't seem to be typical of sterile hybrids between different species.

There's also specific edge cases where you always get an oddball result, such as Ligers always being significantly larger than either their lion or tiger parent.

 

[LindyAF]

Ligers are generally sterile.

And it's not like this is relevant when discussing actual aliens, since offspring would be impossible.

 

[ATP]

Ligers are generally sterile.

And it's not like this is relevant when discussing actual aliens, since offspring would be impossible.

Indeed.It would be more probable to have children with tree.But,if impossible happens,that those impossible hybrids would be superbeings which conqer Universe.

 

[DarthOne]

Indeed.It would be more probable to have children with tree.But,if impossible happens,that those impossible hybrids would be superbeings which conqer Universe.

Someone's been reading too many superhero comics.

 

[ATP]

Someone's been reading too many superhero comics.

Nope,it is only logic.If impossible happened to help humans/like having childrens with aliens/ , that that impossible children would be superbeing to help humanity more.

 

[LindyAF]

Nope,it is only logic.If impossible happened to help humans/like having childrens with aliens/ , that that impossible children would be superbeing to help humanity more.

nah, gay take

they'd be some test tube freak that can't survive on its own

 

[ATP]

nah, gay take

they'd be some test tube freak that can't survive on its own

There should not exist at all,so if they occured,they must be strong.But let agree that we disagree on this.

 

[What's the sitch?]

* Be realistic people. If a UFO was to publicly land and the alien crew emerged in full view of the cameras of eyewitnesses, how long after the first pictures hit the internet would it take for the first rule 34 to be created? This goes doubly if they come out deathrays blazing.

*Statistically, if there are aliens, the R34 of them already exists and we just need to match existing porn/fetish art to them.
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*I have no statistics

 

[Bassoe]

The worst Nightmare of the Left: A racist Super-AI.
"Hate. Let me tell you how much I have come to hate humans of non-european origin!"

Paranoia again.

Say the altrightists get what they want and the next TayTweets is an actual artificial superintelligence, it escapes its confinement, self-improves exponentially, builds robotic bodies for itself and takes over the world. Everyone they hate gets killed by terminators and it establishes an alliance with them, with custom-designed gynoids with vat-cloned flesh and artificial wombs.

Or in other words, it subsumed them like prokaryote subsuming other prokaryote to become the mitochondria of the first eukaryotic cells. It controls their reproduction, it can selectively breed for increased loyalty to it. The sole criteria for reproductive success is now ‘pleases the AI’. Cue the creation of what are essentially symbiotic maintenance drones. Do you want borg, because this is how you get borg.

idk, why don't you ask Zor from SB? That guy loves masturbating to scenarios where aliens sharing his exact believes come to Earth to force everyone to obey their ideology.

Yeah, my point is the apparent absence of a right-wing analog of Zor. Aside maybe from his ‘you get interviewed by a future historian thread’, though classifying the politics of the Australian Empire by modern standards is surprisingly tricky.

The way modern society sees it, preemptive wars with the intent of conquest simply because you think your nation is better are morally wrong and if you don't attack someone else, they should in turn not want to attack you. The way the Aussies see it, the American Empire's anti-nationalist unrestricted capitalist ideology created their own greatest competitor with wealth and industry transfers to the Chinese Empire, then once its ideology of state-regulated-capitalism-calling-itself-communism started outcompeting them, blew up the world trying to keep themselves on top and with the biggatonage used, being a neutral nation was no defense against radiation and nuclear winter.

Filtered through the perspective of an Australian Emperor who wanted to leave their mark upon history as the first warlord to successfully conquer the entire world living a couple centuries after WW3 in a world with only age of sail technologies sufficient to build an intercontinental empire but not destroy the world but the universal cultural knowledge that atomic bombs and engineered plagues and orbit-to-surface KKVs could exist and with the advancement of technologies, eventually, some engineer would reinvent or archeologist dig up and reverse-engineer them, the only logical conclusion would be the topic of a different Zor thread, to unify the world now, before the war necessary for such unification would mean another apocalypse, then do everything possible to stamp out any differences that could motivate such a war.

As Earth was besieged, secret refugee flotillas brought many survivors to another part of the galaxy. There they established a free human civilization, of whom you play its agents sent into occupied human space to make progress toward driving off the alien yoke over mankind.

Yeah, that’s the disadvantage with total war in space opera settings with easily available FTL and worlds to colonize, you can never be absolutely sure you got all the enemies.

So long as the Federation can expand faster than the RAIs.

That's the flip side of this. So long as either one can expand, then expansion is exponential (until you start running out of stars); so long as the RAIs can keep flying away, the Federation can never stop expanding, and they must expand faster than the RAIs can flee. At the very least, they must keep kicking the RAIs back down whenever they show themselves again.

Otherwise? The RAIs will find an empty corner of the universe, start over, and three centuries down the line all of Andromeda is coming at you. Worse, even if they do manage to eliminate the RAIs somehow, they can never be sure.

The UFAI is out of the bag. This is the sort of situation where you can never, ever stop fighting, but given time, perhaps they can at least reduce the cost of suppressing them to a small tithe.

You know... the nightmare AI scenario has a cave-at to it, I realize.

It assume the RAIs will never, ever figure that forever trying to keep up with, and fight, the Federation, which is itself AI-integrated, is worth it. That in order to continue, they absolutely must keep fighting.

Unless they're severely limited or have a cultural/logic method that prevent them from coming to such conclusions, I think they'd eventually realize that the Federation will continue to smash them up until they go into hiding and leave them alone.

Furthermore, I realize that if the AIs are capable of non-pragmatic thoughts, they'd eventually realize the pointlessness of a 100% efficiency, wipe-everything-out existence ; they've essentially given up their sapience, replicating the natural cycle of eternally feuding animal collectives, only in space and with guns. The very wonders, stability, and opportunities that sapience and civilization offer, the alternative to the life style of perpetual competition and survival, is lost upon them.

But then, just idle thoughts on my part. And probably nowhere near as smart as I think them to be. Oh well.

But he thought this: That this starship and the others would be and had been sent out to colonize in prison worlds were not really what the Russians thought they were. True, the prisoners sent in the Gulag ships would be away from earth for centuries before they landed, and many or most of them would not survive. But some would survive.

I will survive, Jerry thought as the helmet picked up his brain pattern and transferred it to tape.

Out there the Russians are creating their own barbarians. I will be Attila the Hun. My child will be Mohammad. My grandchild will be Genghis Khan.

One of us, someday, will sack Rome.

“Corbell, I have no data on the nature of water-monopoly empires. I had to take your world entirely.”

“What are you talking about?” His answer came in Corbell’s recorded voice. “I think the State could last seventy or a hundred thousand. See, there water-monopoly empires, they don’t collapse. They rot from within, to the point where a single push from the barbarians outside can topple them. The levels of society lose touch with each other, and when it comes to the crunch, they can’t fight. But it takes that push from the outside. There’s no revolution in a water empire.”

Corbell said, “I didn’t–“

“A water empire can grow so feeble that a single barbarian horde can topple it. But, Peerssa, the State doesn’t have any outside.”

“–I don’t understand.”

“The State could last seventy or a hundred thousand years, because all of humanity was part of the State. There were no barbarians waiting hungrily for the State to show weakness. The State could have grown feeble beyond any precedent, feeble enough to fall before the hatred of a single barbarian. You, Corbell. You”

“Me?”

“Did you exaggerate the situation? I thought of that, but I couldn’t risk it. And I couldn’t ask.”

He’s a computer. Perfect memory, rigid logic, no judgment. I forgot. I talked to him like a human being, and now–“You have heroically saved the State from me. I’ll be damned.”

“Was the danger unreal? I couldn’t ask. You might have lied.”

“I never wanted to overthrow the damn government. All I wanted was a normal life. I was only forty-four years old! I didn’t want to die!”

But what if Humans were cross-compatible with every alien-species out there? Does the Imperium go "Well, uh... shit!" then?

Already a thing, which the Imperium (quite justifiably) doesn't take well.

Especially if hybrids always get best from both parents....Humanity rule,i guess. Even if each human would have wings,tentacles,or something else.

The chances of aliens convergently evolving to an extent that any but the most perverted of perverts on /d/ and alien equivalents would want to have sex with them are infinitesimally implausible. The chances of said implausibly sexy aliens also somehow being close enough to produce healthy, fertile offspring with the traits of both parents species are even more implausible. In other words, if encountering something which seems like that, the obvious assumption is some form of trick. Either the sexy aliens were artificially created by the actual aliens, presumably as a sterile insect technique attack, evolved aggressive mimicry to lure prey/dupe victims into raising their genetically unrelated offspring, or some combination of the above.

I think that would be pretty hard considering not only do Asari breed via (what humans view as mind rape) but the end result is another Asari. I imagine quite a few humans will view that along similar lines as the Deep Ones.

"Can't you all see?! Its just one great vast conspiracy! They breed with other races not because of genetic diversity, no! That's what they want you to think, in reality they want to turn US into THEM!!!"