Breaking News Trump Impeachment 2: Electric Boogaloo

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JagerIV

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Battlegrinder said:
Speaking of lies, I saw an interesting article on NR about an element of the house's case, namely the death of capital police officer Sicknick.

Initial reports said he was beaten during the riot and later passed away from his injuries. This turned out to not be the case, he was apparently fine (the only hard evidence that's publicly available is some texts he sent his family after the riot was over, which said he was fine), and according to unnamed sources, the medical examiner didn't find any blunt force trauma injuries. He just died for some reason at some point on the 7th and no one has explained why.

This is notable because, as the articles notes, the house impeachment case is sticking with the original story, meaning they are either lying, not doing their due diligence when it comes to making their case, or are in possession of information that has been denied to the public.


As for the overall impeachment and charges, I'm starting to think that making the impeachment process a political one instead of a judicial one was a mistake on the part of the founders. We've had, debatably, one impeachment conducted for something that even vaguely resembles an actual criminal act, and that was Clinton, who was indicted for lying to congress, something that everyone does all the time (or suddenly develops crippling memory problems and are unable to recall a single thing). All of the rest have been done out of purely spiteful partisanship, and only one of them had any chance of actually working, and that was Johnson. Congress, particularly this congress, has proven beyond any doubt that they are not capable of exercising this power responsibly, and IMO the only recourse should be to strip that power from them. If the president has committed crimes, that's impeachable, and the decision of if he's done so and what should happen should be handled by the court system, not congress.
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Eh, the choice between a congressional decision and a judicial decision is not one between political and nonpolitical, but determining which political process is going to get to make the decisions. Judicial decisions at this scale are just as political as something determined by a congress.

Both are agents running cost benefit analysis's of how to achieve their ends within the constraints of their institutions. I'm not sure there's any benifit at this point to not being frank that there are no nonpolitical government.
 
Terthna

Terthna

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JagerIV said:
Eh, the choice between a congressional decision and a judicial decision is not one between political and nonpolitical, but determining which political process is going to get to make the decisions. Judicial decisions at this scale are just as political as something determined by a congress.

Both are agents running cost benefit analysis's of how to achieve their ends within the constraints of their institutions. I'm not sure there's any benifit at this point to not being frank that there are no nonpolitical government.
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Yeah; if anyone thinks how the Supreme Court handled the 2020 election fraud cases wasn't decided based on political concerns, I've got a bridge I can sell you.
 
Duke Nukem

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
Trump Statement after Acquittal:
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LindyAF

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commanderkai said:
Place your bets people! Who's expecting some riots over this tonight?
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I am usually overskeptical of these things but... going to bet minimal riots right now. The left establishment still has decent control over their shock troops, and rioting less than a month into the Biden administration would really freak suburbanites and AWFLs out. Also Seattle and Portland, the big White left wing cities, are snowed in, and it's too cold for blacks to be looting or rioting.
 
Rocinante

Rocinante

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Cold weather always means less riots. People don't want to go out in that shit, and a lot of them are just out there for something to do. Bored and restless, so they go join protests and riots.

Most of them are just going to stay in and stay warm.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some small things pop off that are quickly put down. Never forget, now that Biden won, they won't let these riots go on like they did all summer.
 
Lord Sovereign

Lord Sovereign

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Duke Nukem said:
Trump Statement after Acquittal:
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Trump, I do rather like you, but you had opportunities to nip all of this in the bud and didn't take them. This was primarily because you actually thought the swamp would fall into line after your win in 2016, and you delegated to all the wrong people. That you threw out Bannon in favour of Kushner brings your judgement of character into serious question, and it cost you terribly in the end.

You failed to understand just how deep the corruption went, and also tried to make nice with it. In that respect 2020 was truly inevitable, and it hopefully dispelled with the American Right's naivety that the left or the internationalists could be reasoned with. In 2024, don't stand, but instead throw your weight behind someone who will actually bring the hammer down.
 
Terthna

Terthna

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Huh; I honestly expected the impeachment to go through. Maybe I was wrong about the Republicans being mostly controlled opposition. At the very least, this might mean that the establishment hasn't completely lost it; which I'm not sure is a good thing, or a bad thing.
 
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