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The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
So you cannot even provide sources for the claim about Zelensky, why am I not surprised.

"Provide a source for stuff that's suppressed and buried by google because it has a vested interest in the US being involved in this war"

Bacle plz.

See, you have the mono-focus on trying to pretend the Monroe Doctrine and the Western Hemisphere are all that matter to our daily lives, that nothing that happens outside the America's matters to us (or should matter to us), and that Ukraine is just as bad thus deserves to get invaded.

Deserved? Who said anything about deserving to be invaded? I don't care either way.

None of them matter.


Your sort of mindset won't do anything but make it easier for Biden and the Dems to smear and attack the GOP/Trump base as Russian stooges, and frankly at this point some of the GOP/Trump base would deserve it.

The Russian stooge accusation means nothing outside of blue cities. People make being called a Russian propagandist a badge of honor now.

Pedro Gonzalez is right. "the coastal disconnect has created a parallel society"
 

Cherico

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Again, conflating aiding Ukraine with the ME clusterfucks is ignoring the realities on the ground. People can be tired of fucking around in the ME while also still supporting aiding Ukraine in defending itself and reclaiming it's 1991 borders.

Isolationism doesn't work anymore, as much as even I would like to not need to worry about affairs outside US borders.

You want the US to go isolationist again, then hope that the US gets Mars all to itself somehow, because lightlag and month long space journeys are about the only way to 'disconnect' from the global economy.

Reshoring jobs and such helps, but the fact is the US doesn't have all the tech, patents, or resources to just ignore the rest of the world and think we can get by just strong arming the rest of the America's.

Barcle there is a very clear limit of how much the american people are willing to sacerfice for other countries.

Yes Russians are assholes this is well known, and has been well known for awhile, american's are willing to give intel, their willing to give weapons and to a degree their willing to give money if they have assurances its not just being used to funnel money into corrupt polititions pockets.

But the fact is, when Kabul fell, it was this generations fall of Sigon, the fact that it was a very visable and very public humilation and the fact that Biden showed just how little he fucking cared about our service men. That burned a lot of bridges, people just are not willing to die for a regieme that openly doesn't give a single fuck about them.

If that upsets you sorry, but right now america has to do some serious house cleaning before we can really do anything internationally (with out fucking it up sideways)
 

Cherico

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"I'm not dying for this gay-ass Empire". Being more than just an internet meme at this point. But an actual saying.

Which, to bring this all back on topic is why so many of us Will not vote for Trump unless he promises to start busting up NGOs and jailing corrupt globalists.


As much as that sounds nice.

Were no were near the later, people just haven't hit that rage point quite yet. How long will it take? I don't know, I mean seriously a lot of the stuff that is currently going on would have a few generations ago been long since dealt with by an angry mob with rope.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
As much as that sounds nice.

Were no were near the later, people just haven't hit that rage point quite yet. How long will it take? I don't know, I mean seriously a lot of the stuff that is currently going on would have a few generations ago been long since dealt with by an angry mob with rope.

I dony think we are at the draft riot tier phase but the "not dying over there" phase? Yeah
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Face it- War to defend one shithole that traffics children to defend it against another shithole that traffics drugs just isn't as popular as it used to be and wanting to send billions to aid those people will likely cost Trump the election more than anything else.
Russia would be the one trafficking children. :cautious: As for myself, I can't help but wonder if your antipathy toward Ukraine has more to do with them being in bed with Biden and the like than anything else. Me, I cannot help but sympathize with people who have had their homeland invaded by an aggressor which wishes to conquer their lands and erase their culture by doing things like kidnapping their children. I wonder if they're getting sent to something like the Native boarding schools, where children were taught how to be like white people, were given "Christian" names, and were punished if they spoke their own language. Or maybe they're just getting used by some Russian Epstein types.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Russia would be the one trafficking children. :cautious: As for myself, I can't help but wonder if your antipathy toward Ukraine has more to do with them being in bed with Biden and the like than anything else. Me, I cannot help but sympathize with people who have had their homeland invaded by an aggressor which wishes to conquer their lands and erase their culture by doing things like kidnapping their children. I wonder if they're getting sent to something like the Native boarding schools, where children were taught how to be like white people, were given "Christian" names, and were punished if they spoke their own language. Or maybe they're just getting used by some Russian Epstein types.

Nah, Russians traffic drugs and sell organs to the Chinese, Ukrainians sell babies to NGOs so they can be raped. Well except Chechens, they're Russian I guess and they rape corpses and eat babies for sport.

And no my dislike of the Ukraine comes from the same place my dripping hatred of Russia comes from.

Because I don't fucking care about anything that isn't America first and the rest of the Americas second.

Also Slavs in general did to Buenos Aires what Salvadorians did to East LA. So don't assume I'll take any kind of partiality to one side or the other. Between communism and organized crime they culturally enriched us enough for me for one lifetime. I ain't gonna side with any of them ever on any issue

Don't try and strawman me Cap, I'm too blunt and explicit in my contempt for certain geopolitical nonsense for you to be successful at it
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
We know the Russians have taken children - they've admitted as much.

Oh hey they do the same thing the other group of Slavs do.

Big surprise.

It's all garbage, fuck the whole region. Let it all burn.

Not just that we have video proof of them taking children and then forcefully adopting them out

Oh well.

Not our problem.

I ain't sending my son off to die for some Troon in the Pentagon's fuckboy at Lockhead Martin.
 

Zachowon

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Oh hey they do the same thing the other group of Slavs do.

Big surprise.

It's all garbage, fuck the whole region. Let it all burn.



Oh well.

Not our problem.

I ain't sending my son off to die for some Troon in the Pentagon's fuckboy at Lockhead Martin.
You do know the only troops sent have been ones ti make sure what is sent is being accounted fir right?
Not a single US service member that is currently serving in the military has been sent into combat
 

Zachowon

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That's how it starts and then the CIA does a false flag like the gulf of Tonkin and bammo.
Except no one wants nuclear war so we arnt.
When the missiles landed in Poland we didn't immediately declare war and invade did we?
No, because no one wants nuclear war
 

Bacle

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Barcle there is a very clear limit of how much the american people are willing to sacerfice for other countries.

Yes Russians are assholes this is well known, and has been well known for awhile, american's are willing to give intel, their willing to give weapons and to a degree their willing to give money if they have assurances its not just being used to funnel money into corrupt polititions pockets.

But the fact is, when Kabul fell, it was this generations fall of Sigon, the fact that it was a very visable and very public humilation and the fact that Biden showed just how little he fucking cared about our service men. That burned a lot of bridges, people just are not willing to die for a regieme that openly doesn't give a single fuck about them.

If that upsets you sorry, but right now america has to do some serious house cleaning before we can really do anything internationally (with out fucking it up sideways)
Ukraine needs gear, they have the manpower already; they still haven't reopened the nation to foreign fighters.

So do not assume I mean we need to put troops on the ground, outside the people already there making sure our weapons don't end up on the black market. Much of the dollar amount going to Ukraine is the cost of the gear we are sending them, along with the the economic assistance to keep them afloat till the war ends and they rebuild.

This war, and the aid Ukraine needs, are not going to be gone fast, unfortunately, and Ukraine is hoping this time next year they will have retake Crimea, which then would allow most of their forces to retake the Donbas in 2024. But remember, they need gear, not US or NATO troops, so it'd be better to invest at home with more munitions plants and such to help make sure we can help Ukraine in the long haul.

Also, aid to Ukraine is barely a meaningful part of the federal budget; you want to get more bang for your tax dollar, cut the Title IX shit and the Diversity, Inclusion, Equity programs, or the unnecessary/redundant bits of the bureaucracy.
 

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