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ShadowArxxy

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Obscure? everybody had photos from WW2,including those of Zero.
At least owners of museum must knew that.

Not the Zero, the Jake. As I said, Travel Town wasn't much of a museum, it was an uncurated outdoor collection of vintage stuff that the City of LA was able to buy up cheaply and stick on display. I went there as a little kid and they didn't even have proper exhibit signs, just name labels.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Wasn't aware any Shisui had survived.

Like the Raiden, two Shisuis were brought to the United States for testing, one for the Army Air Corps and one for the Navy. This one is the one that went to the Army Air Corps; Planes of Fame acquired it in 1948 as the very first plane in their collection. The Navy's Shisui was on display at Naval Air Station Glenview (where it had been evaluated) for some time, but was ultimately scrapped.

The other surviving Shisui was a nearly complete fuselage that was literally found in a random cave in Japan in the 1960s. It has now been fully restored and is in the in-house museum at Mitsubishi's Komaki plant. Since this was an incomplete fuselage without wings, it is unclear as to whether this was one of the seven prototypes or an incomplete example of the production Shisuis; it is known that while no production Shisui was ever completed, their construction *had* started shortly before the war ended.

Either way, the Museum's Shisui is the only complete survivor and the only one verified to have been a flying aircraft.
 

ATP

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Like the Raiden, two Shisuis were brought to the United States for testing, one for the Army Air Corps and one for the Navy. This one is the one that went to the Army Air Corps; Planes of Fame acquired it in 1948 as the very first plane in their collection. The Navy's Shisui was on display at Naval Air Station Glenview (where it had been evaluated) for some time, but was ultimately scrapped.

The other surviving Shisui was a nearly complete fuselage that was literally found in a random cave in Japan in the 1960s. It has now been fully restored and is in the in-house museum at Mitsubishi's Komaki plant. Since this was an incomplete fuselage without wings, it is unclear as to whether this was one of the seven prototypes or an incomplete example of the production Shisuis; it is known that while no production Shisui was ever completed, their construction *had* started shortly before the war ended.

Either way, the Museum's Shisui is the only complete survivor and the only one verified to have been a flying aircraft.

I read ,that they plan to mass produce them as suicide bomb against ships.Dunno if true or not.Range would probably be to small for that.
 

ShadowArxxy

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I read ,that they plan to mass produce them as suicide bomb against ships.Dunno if true or not.Range would probably be to small for that.

Not quite. There was serious consideration of using them for ramming attacks against B-29s, as the aircraft was relatively cheap and incredibly difficult to intercept with its extreme speed, but at the same time that same speed made gunnery difficult.
 

Captain X

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Quarterhorse, the Air Force’s Next Hypersonic Aircraft, Has Taken an Epic Leap (msn.com)

TLDR: Hermeus has developed a hybrid engine that can switch between turbojet and ramjet in the same engine. Successful test of the operational engine has been completed.
The fun thing for me is that I actually developed this concept for my orbiter replacement design that I came up with for my high school science fair project in the late '90s, based on the system that the SR-71 used. So I once again can't help but feel pretty salty about the fact I can't get hired as an engineer even with a master's degree.
 

ATP

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Not quite. There was serious consideration of using them for ramming attacks against B-29s, as the aircraft was relatively cheap and incredibly difficult to intercept with its extreme speed, but at the same time that same speed made gunnery difficult.
Good idea,but they should do that with Ki43 in frontal attacks.They were obsolate anyway.
 

ShadowArxxy

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The fun thing for me is that I actually developed this concept for my orbiter replacement design that I came up with for my high school science fair project in the late '90s, based on the system that the SR-71 used. So I once again can't help but feel pretty salty about the fact I can't get hired as an engineer even with a master's degree.

This concept's been theorized for a *long* time, and it's widely believed that the US has fully operational turbo/ramjets for the Aurora spyplane since the early 1990s when the SR-71 was retired.
 
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Captain X

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This concept's been theorized for a *long* time, and it's widely believed that the US has fully operational turbo/ramjets for the Aurora spyplane since the early 1990s when the SR-71 was retired.
Maybe, but I was in high school and basically working by myself. :cautious:
 

Husky_Khan

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F-22's first kill is a weather balloon.
F-35's first kill was a pair of Iranian Drones in 2021 (via Israel).

Kinda lame if you ask me.

What was the first kill of the F-14,15,16 & 18? Or things like the Eurofighter or Gripen etc if they have any?

F-14: Libyan Su-22 Fitter, Iraqi Mil Mi-25 Attack Helicopter via an Iranian M61 Vulcan :cool:
F-15: Syrian MiG-21,
F-16: Syrian Mi-8 Helicopter (okay kinda lame), first US Kill was an Iraqi MiG-25 Foxbat though which is a fair bit cooler.
F-18: Iraqi MiG-21

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Husky_Khan

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Wasn't there some alternate history novel of World War Two where fleets of B-36's bombed or nuked a resurgent Nazi Germany or Soviet Union or both into submission? Or is that the standard non-canon ending of World War Two in literature?
 

Aaron Fox

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People whining about saving the A-10 or how the F-35 is an overpriced piece of crap and what is the best close air support platform the Air Force can use.

Me:

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Seventy years ago the US Army almost unlocked the perpetual high ground advantage for its infantry.

And we just... threw it away. SMH.
The funny thing about those is that they were kind of deadly for their operators, and they couldn't do much due to the tyranny of physics. Johnny Quest loved to use something similar, however.
 

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