whats the people on this form opinion on Tim Pool and his news channels and podcast

Terthna

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I'll be honest; I think Tim Pool's tenancy to be a "milquetoast fence sitter", as he describes himself, is coloring his reporting on the election. He just does not want to admit that there was extensive voter fraud (or at least, that Trump will be able to prove it in court), and insists that Trump long-shot victory relies on focusing on technical issues with the voting. He also keeps waffling on whether or not Trump still has a shot at victory; in one video he says Trump's got a good chance, while in another he insists he doesn't. His argument and position are inconsistent from moment to moment, and it's starting to really annoy me.
 

Bigking321

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I know it's been a while since someone posted here but I felt this was interesting enough to bring it back.

On timcast irl last night a news story broke near the end of the fbi leaking confidential information they seized from Project Veritas in the raid the other week to the New York times.

Tim lost his shit. Went on a huge rant of how corrupt and evil the democrats and leftists are and how bad off we are as a country because of them.

Seems the last year has been hurting his ability to attempt to be a neutral fence sitter.

He definitely doesn't like the Republican establishment but he seems to HATE democrats and leftists now.
 

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I know it's been a while since someone posted here but I felt this was interesting enough to bring it back.

On timcast irl last night a news story broke near the end of the fbi leaking confidential information they seized from Project Veritas in the raid the other week to the New York times.

Tim lost his shit. Went on a huge rant of how corrupt and evil the democrats and leftists are and how bad off we are as a country because of them.

Seems the last year has been hurting his ability to attempt to be a neutral fence sitter.

He definitely doesn't like the Republican establishment but he seems to HATE democrats and leftists now.


A Federal Judge put a stop to the FBI and what they did. Which gives me some hope.
 

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Saw this pop up for the first time. Since you asked, I have no idea who Tim Pool is.


Tim is a Left of center guy but he is honest, for the most part, and he has sense. Like many people on the left he was suddenly and forcefully ejected from their ranks and found refuge with the new growing coalition of the Center and Right. He absolutely does not like this. He has spent years viewing the Right with the same suspicion and mistrust most of hard core leftists view the right. Yet he can not deny the Right has been far kinder to him than the Left ever could be.

Despite that, I can't help but feel he's not entirely wrong about his pessimism concerning the GOP. While a good chunk of the Old guard Elite and globalists are gone there are still enough in power that have the means to cause real damage to a right wing populist agenda. They need to go and are either going to be primaried out or retire. So when he says the GOP wont do squat to oppose Biden and authoritarianism...I can't fault him too much for thinking that because caving like little cowards is exactly WHAT the GOP was really good at. The new GOP is a very different beast and very much willing to fight, but again they don't fully control the party yet.

So Tim finds himself in a bit of quandarie. He doesn't want to be associated with the Right and wants to rag on them like the old school democrat he is. Yet all the problems are coming from the new authoritarian left, and he absolutely hates it and so is forced to stand with people he'd rather not stand with to fight that which he hates. People keep saying Tim needs to take the red pill but I'm convinced he never will.
 

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Tim is a Left of center guy but he is honest, for the most part, and he has sense. Like many people on the left he was suddenly and forcefully ejected from their ranks and found refuge with the new growing coalition of the Center and Right. He absolutely does not like this. He has spent years viewing the Right with the same suspicion and mistrust most of hard core leftists view the right. Yet he can not deny the Right has been far kinder to him than the Left ever could be.

Despite that, I can't help but feel he's not entirely wrong about his pessimism concerning the GOP. While a good chunk of the Old guard Elite and globalists are gone there are still enough in power that have the means to cause real damage to a right wing populist agenda. They need to go and are either going to be primaried out or retire. So when he says the GOP wont do squat to oppose Biden and authoritarianism...I can't fault him too much for thinking that because caving like little cowards is exactly WHAT the GOP was really good at. The new GOP is a very different beast and very much willing to fight, but again they don't fully control the party yet.

So Tim finds himself in a bit of quandarie. He doesn't want to be associated with the Right and wants to rag on them like the old school democrat he is. Yet all the problems are coming from the new authoritarian left, and he absolutely hates it and so is forced to stand with people he'd rather not stand with to fight that which he hates. People keep saying Tim needs to take the red pill but I'm convinced he never will.
An excellent analysis of Mr. Pool IMO. It certainly lines up with what little I do know about him. And I admit, I can’t help but feel a little bad for him, now that I’ve read it.
 

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An excellent analysis of Mr. Pool IMO. It certainly lines up with what little I do know about him. And I admit, I can’t help but feel a little bad for him, now that I’ve read it.


I feel a little bad for him but not too much. He's heavily indoctrinated with the whole Left good, Right Bad, politics that isn't very helpful, nor very relevant anymore. The moment he can go back to being a lefty and accepted by that group again he's gonna bounce, plain and simple. It's why I'm not getting too attached to who he is now and the positions he takes now simply because I know its not the ones he wants to take.
 

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I feel a little bad for him but not too much. He's heavily indoctrinated with the whole Left good, Right Bad, politics that isn't very helpful, nor very relevant anymore. The moment he can go back to being a lefty and accepted by that group again he's gonna bounce, plain and simple. It's why I'm not getting too attached to who he is now and the positions he takes now simply because I know its not the ones he wants to take.

were in the middle of a political realinment, things are changing including alliances and enemies.

and once things change their not coming back.
 

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were in the middle of a political realinment, things are changing including alliances and enemies.

and once things change their not coming back.


I think Tim doesn't quite realize that. He's said things in the past that makes me think he thinks things will go back to the way they were once the Socialists and authoritarians get dealt with. But politics is always in flux, never static. Things are never going back to the way they were. I don't think Tim realizes that, yet.
 

Terthna

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I feel a little bad for him but not too much. He's heavily indoctrinated with the whole Left good, Right Bad, politics that isn't very helpful, nor very relevant anymore. The moment he can go back to being a lefty and accepted by that group again he's gonna bounce, plain and simple. It's why I'm not getting too attached to who he is now and the positions he takes now simply because I know its not the ones he wants to take.
He did come around on gun rights though.



I think Tim doesn't quite realize that. He's said things in the past that makes me think he thinks things will go back to the way they were once the Socialists and authoritarians get dealt with. But politics is always in flux, never static. Things are never going back to the way they were. I don't think Tim realizes that, yet.
It won't be quite the same, but people will still want to argue over certain fundamental issues. Whatever we end up calling the opposition parties of the future (and I think it would be good if we could figure out a way to avoid limiting it to just two in the future), a healthy political discourse requires that people be allowed to disagree with one another on what should be done.
 

Bigking321

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He has absolutely come around to leftists and much of the government they control being utterly corrupt and being actually evil.

Which makes it super weird when he talks about the election.

"These people are evil and corrupt and will do anything for power and act exactly like the evil groups in all these historical examples of countries being taken by bad actors, but the election was fine, Trump lost to biden."

I honestly think he thinks it was stolen but if he talks about it youtube will shut his channels down. I dunno.
 

UberSink

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I don't keep up with him at all, just heard about him mostly from you folks. What are his democrat positions, thought he was pretty good
 

Bigking321

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He likes universal health care and is fairly left on social stuff. Anti big business which is more of a right position now than 10 years ago.

It's just the current left has gone so insanely far over the line he is closer to the right then not. I think that freaks him out.

He hasn't really changed his position except he became VERY pro-2nd amendment after the blm riots started and he has become very anti-city life after escaping it.

So the right has stayed pretty much the same as always in its positions, Tim has stayed the same or gotten closer to the right, and the left has gone full speed off a ideological cliff.

He claims to be center left libertarian I think but that puts him squarely on the alt right according to most of the left nowadays.
 

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