Where does western civilization end

boarder of western civilization

  • Germany?

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • Baltics

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Russias in the club I guess

    Votes: 10 38.5%
  • If it was in the warsaw pact its not western

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Poland is the last outpost of western civilization beyond that is only barbarians and darkness

    Votes: 10 38.5%

  • Total voters
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ATP

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what in your opinion is the boarders of western civilization?
Catholic churches.Places when they were made and existed at least belonged once to western cyvilisation.

During 1905 revolution hospitals in Russia made strike - in ethnic russian land doctors simply stop helping patients.
In former Poland territories/till Dniept river line/ doctors still helped.

Of course,later Sralin genocided best people there,so now border is more West.But Baltic states still belong.
 

Husky_Khan

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South and East of wherever they stop wearing seatbelts because they think it's unmanly.

Okay not really but... Kinda really? 😛
 

ATP

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It's not contigous. Japan and Korea are definitely Western countries, but there is an ocean between them and the next guys on the list: Canada.

Israel is weird, tbf. I guess Israel is Israel.

I would add Taiwan,but not Singapoore.And,i think,it is matter of cyvilisation.If people are treated as persons with some right,not merely part of something bigger,and take the same morality for all people/stealing from other trine as bad as from my tribe/
Then you have Western.Add monogamy.
 

SoliFortissimi

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I would add Taiwan,but not Singapoore.And,i think,it is matter of cyvilisation.If people are treated as persons with some right,not merely part of something bigger,and take the same morality for all people/stealing from other trine as bad as from my tribe/
Then you have Western.Add monogamy.
Then there is no Western civilisation. As for monogamy, it's the norm in the entire world, excepting failed states and the Gulf.
 

King Arts

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Catholic churches.Places when they were made and existed at least belonged once to western cyvilisation.

During 1905 revolution hospitals in Russia made strike - in ethnic russian land doctors simply stop helping patients.
In former Poland territories/till Dniept river line/ doctors still helped.

Of course,later Sralin genocided best people there,so now border is more West.But Baltic states still belong.
If it's Catholic nations only, what about Protestants if they are not western what are they? Also what about Greece it's not Catholic, but it is literally the birthplace of Western Civilization. The first conflict between west and east was Greece vs Persia after all.

It's not contigous. Japan and Korea are definitely Western countries, but there is an ocean between them and the next guys on the list: Canada.

Israel is weird, tbf. I guess Israel is Israel.
I just have to disagree I mean Japan is the land of the rising sun it's the most eastern nation there is. They are allied with the west aka American global order, but they have their own culture.

I would add Taiwan,but not Singapoore.And,i think,it is matter of cyvilisation.If people are treated as persons with some right,not merely part of something bigger,and take the same morality for all people/stealing from other trine as bad as from my tribe/
Then you have Western.Add monogamy.
Why these Asian nations are Western when they are not even Christian let alone Catholic?
And most Eastern nations are more collectivist than the west.

"Western civilization" is literally the norm all across the world. But properly, it is Europe and the places Europeans massively colonized: that is to say, Americas and Australia.
This I can agree with it is European nations those that descended from Christendom and their descendants aka America and the other ex European colonies like those in South America but not those that are in Africa, or India.
 

ATP

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Then there is no Western civilisation. As for monogamy, it's the norm in the entire world, excepting failed states and the Gulf.

Nope.In India you are part of caste,In China part of collective and goverment had other morality then common people,muslims could take few wifes and kill unbelivers,and for orthodox jews stealing from goim is bad only if somebody catch them.
 
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SoliFortissimi

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Nope.In India you are part of caste,In China part of collective and goverment had other morality then common people,muslims could take few wifes and kill unbelivers,and for jews stealing from goim is bad only if somebody catch them.
Bla bla bla. But in the end, only failed states and the Gulf have polygamy. India is monogamous and a laughing stock, and Jews haven't had polygamy since the Temple of Solomon.

Prove me wrong or humbly concede.
 

ATP

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Bla bla bla. But in the end, only failed states and the Gulf have polygamy. India is monogamous and a laughing stock, and Jews haven't had polygamy since the Temple of Solomon.

Prove me wrong or humbly concede.

Then France,Sweden and other are failed states,becouse muslims there have few wives.Jndia is laughing stock becouse of caste system,which cripple them.And jews still belive that exist 2 kind of morality - one for them,other for goims./which is normal tribalism - but it means,that they are not West/
 

SoliFortissimi

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Then France,Sweden and other are failed states,becouse muslims there have few wives.Jndia is laughing stock becouse of caste system,which cripple them.And jews still belive that exist 2 kind of morality - one for them,other for goims./which is normal tribalism - but it means,that they are not West/
France and Sweden banned polygamy, so those immigrants are normal criminals that don't reflect upon them. India is a laughing stock even after banning caste because their government has no balls to enforce their will. What Jews do or don't do, I give not a single damn. That's for the Yankees and Arabs to care about.

Anyways, point is still decided in my favour. Western civilisation has now been extended to Japan, Israel and SK.
 

ATP

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France and Sweden banned polygamy, so those immigrants are normal criminals that don't reflect upon them. India is a laughing stock even after banning caste because their government has no balls to enforce their will. What Jews do or don't do, I give not a single damn. That's for the Yankees and Arabs to care about.

Anyways, point is still decided in my favour. Western civilisation has now been extended to Japan, Israel and SK.

France and Sweden banned polygamy,but do nothing to stop it.Israel do not have israeli citizenship,you belong to ethnic groups there - so they are not West.
Japan copied many things,but it not made them West.I think,that they had their own cyvilisation.
South Korea - you are right ,i think,they are West now.
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

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On the European continent, 'the west' stops at Russia. The Russian people have one foot in the east and one foot in the west; they are their own thing. Hence their ability to adopt valuable parts of western civilization and maintain them, when so many try and fail, something obvious in the arts. Russians as a people certainly cannot be considered uncultured.

Hence, also, their ability to be as calculating and pragmatic as the Eastern peoples.

In the past when the West was great and the East sucked, Russia looked to the west. Today, I think most of them would agree that they are their own people first.
 

King Arts

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France and Sweden banned polygamy,but do nothing to stop it.Israel do not have israeli citizenship,you belong to ethnic groups there - so they are not West.
Japan copied many things,but it not made them West.I think,that they had their own cyvilisation.
South Korea - you are right ,i think,they are West now.
I’m pretty sure France won’t let you claim benefits for more than one wife they only allow people even Muslims to marry one woman. The Muslims can call the other women they live with wives but the state and France’s people don’t recognize it. As far as they are concerned any woman you have relations with except your wife is just a mistress.
 

ATP

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I’m pretty sure France won’t let you claim benefits for more than one wife they only allow people even Muslims to marry one woman. The Muslims can call the other women they live with wives but the state and France’s people don’t recognize it. As far as they are concerned any woman you have relations with except your wife is just a mistress.
Of course.But they still take money as "single mothers" and gave them to their lords.
 

SoliFortissimi

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France and Sweden banned polygamy,but do nothing to stop it.Israel do not have israeli citizenship,you belong to ethnic groups there - so they are not West.
Japan copied many things,but it not made them West.I think,that they had their own cyvilisation.
South Korea - you are right ,i think,they are West now.
Absurd. France and Sweden banned polygamy and will arrest you for it. Your absurd argument about Israel does nothing, sicne the Yankees also had seperate categories for Blacks and Whites back in the old days. Japan has their own civilization like the French adn Germans do, but it is still a subset of the West.
Controversial answer: nations with majority white populations.
That will include the Russians, Armenians, and many other peoples who laugh at that American mania called coloured segregation.
 

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