Who else dreads this year?

GooseActual

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What I don’t understand is why the dems are running some far left candidates with some ludicrous ideas. In their minds this is the most important election to win so why are they putting up people who are arguing for just magic-ing 1.6 trillion in others peoples problems away, arguing for racial reparations, and removing firearms fron Law abiding citizens.


This was the time to run a moderate to pull the middle voters away from trump but I’m my opinion more people would rather have a president who is an asshole than one that increases their taxes to pay for reparations or to clear someone else’s loans.

And not everyone thinks trump is causing the 4th Reich.

It’s going to be a shit Show and the dems are going to have no one to blame but themselves... for the second fucking time.
 

Es Arcanum

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American political parties have always been far looser coalitions than their Westminster counterparts. I think in recent times this has only been exacerbated as the left faction has grown in prominence within the Democratic 'Party'. To answer your question Goose I don't think the DNC actually has control over who is running and how they fare.

I think the DNC tried to push 'Beto' and it failed miserably, they're walking a fine line supporting Biden as the other candidates are watching them like a hawk as they don't want to be fucked over like Bernie was (he still would have lost but he was still fucked over).

Think of the GOP and how much control they had over Trumps hostile takeover of the party. There's really not much the DNC can do they just have to ride this horse until it tires out.
 

Revan

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and Antifa attacks more people and I strongly suspect they will earn a spot on an official terrorist list soon.


They should already be labeled terrorists due to the two separate attacks on ICE. Not to mention their numerous attacks on innocent people. Tim Poole recently did a video in which he showed that the far Left is responsible for nearly all the violence in recent years. I suspect that when Trump gets reelected they're going to flip their shit and really step it up a notch.
 
At the same time, the Dem's aren't going to be even remotely effective as opposition because they will be tearing themselves apart for having twice lost to Trump.

Don't kid yourself. Trump is fucked. He won on a mixture of technicality, protest vote, a demotivated base, and the fact that they ran literally the most hated woman in America.

Many people didn't vote for him but against her.

It's was basically like...

"BEHOLD YOUR QUEEN!"

and then

"NO NOT THAT! ANYTHING BUT THAT!"


Lets be honest, the current democratic leadership has been utterly failing at "Party" for years. As long as they keep lobbyists and rich campaign doners happy they were perfectly fine with letting it go to hell. After all, engaging thier base might actually mean moving economically to the left of Regan...

They try and cover up their utter contempt for the well being of their constitutionality for it by embracing Identity Politics. But even if you solidly lock down the vote of all 12 Jewish Lesbian Velociraptor Otherkin Transsexual Paraplegics in the country... that's still only like 12 votes. And the idiot SJWs with no sense of realpolitik who love that shit.

God those fucking loons are crawling out of the woodwork these days.

If the Democrat wins then things will be equally interesting but in very different ways. I mean, do they try and bring charges against Trump?

Likely. He's scum. He's not as disgusting as Clinton was, but lets not fool ourselves... that's like saying "I might have Gonorrhea, but at least its not the Spanish Flu!"

What support do they have in the House and Senate?

They flipped the House hard and fast, and the only reason they didn't nail the senate was because the senators up for election was the Obama 2012 presidential batch and thus already leaned very democrat.

Democrats tend to do better during presidential years.

What do they do with regards to Trade, China, Iran, North Korea, Russia, the EU?

Trade? Depends on the president. Might seen anything from protectionism to NAFTA 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO.

Basically down to NEO-LIBERAL Y/N?

China? Same. Though telling the Chinese to fuck themselves is one of the few things I think Trump isn't a disaster on. Too bad its 20 years too late to mean shit.

Iran? They wouldn't be trying to bait them into a war. Unless somehow the feted corpse of Hillary Clinton political career manages to resurrect itself from the grave. In which case all the missiles.

North Korea? More of the same. Not like anything has really changed in the past 70 years.

Russia? Functional election security measures, sanctions that are actually enforced.

The EU? Lots and lots of crow will be eaten.

I think the DNC tried to push 'Beto' and it failed miserably, they're walking a fine line supporting Biden as the other candidates are watching them like a hawk as they don't want to be fucked over like Bernie was (he still would have lost but he was still fucked over).

Bernie would have eaten Turmp alive.
 

FriedCFour

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Don't kid yourself. Trump is fucked. He won on a mixture of technicality, protest vote, a demotivated base, and the fact that they ran literally the most hated woman in America.

Many people didn't vote for him but against her.
Given that the two of the talking points agreed to by all democratic candidates is free healthcare for illegal immigrants and open borders in all but name, you dont think that might cause the same effect?
 
Given that the two of the talking points agreed to by all democratic candidates is free healthcare for illegal immigrants and open borders in all but name, you dont think that might cause the same effect?

*Remembers the 2016 republican primary*

*Breaks out in laughter*
 

Battlegrinder

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Bernie would have eaten Turmp alive.

Bernie lost the primary to, as you said, "literally the most hated woman in America", and in addition to that the GOP had actual bad shit that can be pinned on him as opposed to Hillary's record of always being in favor of whatever it's fashionable to be in favor of. I fail to see why you think that's a winning formula.
 

7 Gold Eye Heals the Wise

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They flipped the House hard and fast, and the only reason they didn't nail the senate was because the senators up for election was the Obama 2012 presidential batch and thus already leaned very democrat.
Are we really doing the thing where we pretend Republicans didn't make gains in the Senate, and that Democrats barely took the House only because of the sheer number of Republican House Representatives that retired? This, despite the Mueller Investigation & every MSM outlet not named Fox News blatantly going to bat for the Dems?

We really memore-holing the "Blue Wave" thing, aren't we?
 

Doomsought

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Dread? No, I anticipate it. We are living in a Mel Gibson movie, and I'm going to be laughing at the absurdity of it all the way to the day I die.
 

The Original Sixth

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A lot of blood, I fear. There will be Trump rallies. We are having them now. Expect the usual urine and feces attacks and beatings, but shootings wouldn't surprise me, particularly at rallies in Democrat territory, where police protection will be symbolic at best.uck, we'll have a couple of Antifarts shot in self defense. But that will ramp up their violence. I expect serious violence on or slightly before election day. It wouldn't surprise me if we have shooters or bomb attacks on polling places. I will definitely be packing.

If Trump wins, I expect Berserkely, Seattle, Portland, and similar places to burn. [SHRUG] I don't much care if they burn. I don't think they will raid much into our neighborhoods too much. Our cops will respond, and the possibility of rifle fire from the residents should dissuade them. If not, the actuality of it will. I also expect four years of increasing terrorism, peaking on election days in 2022 and 2024.

If Trump loses, all bets are off. There will be massive, perhaps irresistable allegations of election fraud. Whether the Right has the balls to do more than whine, is anybody's guess.

I'm not sure what to expect from Antifa in 2020.

On the one hand, they don't want Trump to win re-election and so will be out in force. On the other hand, the DNC wants them to not fuck this up for them. Then again, the easiest way for the DNC to avoid pissing off Antifa and washing their hands is to get CNN and MSNBC to portray it as a 'protest' and not a 'riot', with accusations of heavy handed police response.

Of course, if Trump wins, then Antifa will mobilize and trash their own cities. I doubt they'll be dumb enough to move out into red territory though. Antifa is mostly composed of middle and upper middle class white kids looking to lash out at others with minimal risk to themselves. If they gather in a large group and attack people, then their chances of getting hurt is low. Of course, the first time one of them gets shot, it changes the game. The first time several of them get shot, the game is over.

I encourage you all to practice your second amendment rights.
 

The Original Sixth

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Don't kid yourself. Trump is fucked. He won on a mixture of technicality, protest vote, a demotivated base, and the fact that they ran literally the most hated woman in America.

Oh, this ought to be fun.

Many people didn't vote for him but against her.

Well yes, because they'd rather have him than Clinton. That will also be the same issue when the next DNC or RNC candidate is put forward; people will vote against almost as much as for. That has always been a strategic concern of the process.

Let's face it, the DNC didn't and still doesn't, want Bernie Sanders. I could go into his complete lack of intelligence, the fact that he stutters like a retard, the fact that all of his plans would bankrupt the country (and has bankrupted other countries--Venezuela), and has the stamina of a dying old man. Bernie is unacceptable to the DNC, because he is un-electable. He simply had a strong base within the DNC for people who wanted free shit.

As for a demotivated base, yes there is some truth to that. Acting like that is some sort of new thing though is outright absurd. The DNC's power blocs have always had the problem of unity. It's a massive coalition, but they all have different aims. That means more internal fighting, more bickering, and hence they tend to lose large elections. The RNC has a smaller voting bloc, but their goals don't get in the way of each other. Greater unity, less bickering, and hence they have a strong line. The only way the DNC can win is if they get a populist president who can paper over the policy concerns. Barak Obama and Bill Clinton had that charisma and appeal. Hillary Clinton did not.

Protest vote? Sure, there are protests votes. And yes, there was some voting against than for, but that has been a strategic concern for centuries. As has the electoral. The DNC insistence on having not loss based purely on voter numbers, is really just a way for them to save face. It's so really fucking stupid people who get headaches from using the old brain jar can feel warm and snugly in their tum tums.

Lets be honest, the current democratic leadership has been utterly failing at "Party" for years. As long as they keep lobbyists and rich campaign doners happy they were perfectly fine with letting it go to hell. After all, engaging thier base might actually mean moving economically to the left of Regan...

Yes. And so were the Republicans for the past 8-16 years. Both parties have been failing at maintaining their party. This is not really surprising; this happens every now and again as concerns and situations change. The parties we have in 2020 are not going to match up to the ones in 1920. Or 2120. The critical failure point for the DNC though, has been reached. The Neo-Liberals discredited themselves in 2016 by running Clinton. And sure, all the Dems pretended to be onboard because, 'it was time' or 'I'm with her', as if anyone gives a shit about meaningless slogans. And yes, they ran one of the most powerful, corrupt, and unlikable politicians in the US.

And now our front runners are...Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. And maybe Booker from far left field. Oh, boy.

They flipped the House hard and fast, and the only reason they didn't nail the senate was because the senators up for election was the Obama 2012 presidential batch and thus already leaned very democrat.

Hard and fast? You huffing paint?

They shifted the balance by 38 seats, after two years of a Russian Investigation and constant allegations and attacks on the President. The Democrats barely had to put forward half-sane candidates to get their butts in those seats. In 2020, that won't work. Russian Investigation is over. The Democrats have all but stalled on calling for Impeachment. Trump is leading a strong economy. The Democratic candidates are doing so bad that Dems are getting angry at the debates, because they think they look like idiots (they do). You can't get away with #Resist anymore. You have to put forward a leader. And that leader will be what people think about when they vote in 2020.

And for comparison, the 112th Congress saw Obama lose more seats to the Republicans.

111th Congress

House/Senate
Reps -- 179/41
Dems -- 255/57 (+2 Indies)

112th Congress

House/Senate
Reps -- 240/47
Dems -- 191/51 (+2 Indies)

Compare that to the 116th Congress:

House/Senate
Reps -- 197/53
Dems -- 235/45 (+2 Indies)

Democrats lost 64 seats after Obama was in. Trump lost only 38 seats.

Democrats tend to do better during presidential years.

And we all know that Republicans vote late!

More pseudo-intellectual nonsense. Yes, the opposing party to the President will do better, but that's not an assurance that Trump will lose. Going by the records of Trump and Obama, Trump has a solid chance of re-election. He might possibly lose the Senate, he might not. He may even regain the House back.


Bernie would have eaten Turmp alive.

No, he wouldn't.

Bernie Sanders got his ass plugged by fucking Ted Cruz.
 
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and Antifa attacks more people and I strongly suspect they will earn a spot on an official terrorist list soon.

They should already be labeled terrorists due to the two separate attacks on ICE. Not to mention their numerous attacks on innocent people. Tim Poole recently did a video in which he showed that the far Left is responsible for nearly all the violence in recent years. I suspect that when Trump gets reelected they're going to flip their shit and really step it up a notch.

I honestly mostly know of ANTIFA from Youtube, my parents watch a LOT of CNN and I already disliked mainstream news way before the 2010s, but I don't think they ever will be labeled terrorists.

Why? Because first off, they're in somewhat large numbers and composed of many middle-to-upper class people and whoever else they indoctrinate, gonna be hard to arrest them when their parents are wealthy or somewhat wealthy. Or is that not good enough of a reason?

Second, I believe in Underdog-Dynamics. They base themselves off fighting against a list of cliche's associated with bashing or satirising what plenty of fiction considers "Far Right" or eventually leading to or are all Nazism under different names, whether or not people fail to realise the whole Left-Right Dichotomy's dumb or that being an Anarchocapitalist doesn't mean you're a Racist or a Fascist.

Third, people can write off guys like Tim Pool as being Alt-Right or Far Right, like that one time I saw Aussiehawker dude do on SB and only choose to watch/listen/read their chosen news sources or hear/read about things off-hand in order to say someone's a Nazi without actually being able to provide evidence or even know the source or its source or even realising something was taken out of context and/or somehow made out to be in support of Nazism even if it doesn't have anything to do with Nazism

I doubt Trump will ever legally declare them terrorists without having to deal with backlash or Hollywood being on ANTIFA's side
 

Es Arcanum

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Bernie would have eaten Turmp alive.

Leaving aside your delusions about Bernie in the general election.:LOL:

I was talking about the Dem primaries. There was no way Bernie was going to win those, Hillary had paved her path to victory well in advance with superdelegates and the like and Bernie was no Obama. Which is why I think it was so hamfisted of the Clinton campaign and DNC to sabotage him the way they did seeking an even 'bigger' victory.
 
Leaving aside your delusions about Bernie in the general election.:LOL:

I was talking about the Dem primaries. There was no way Bernie was going to win those, Hillary had paved her path to victory well in advance with superdelegates and the like and Bernie was no Obama. Which is why I think it was so hamfisted of the Clinton campaign and DNC to sabotage him the way they did seeking an even 'bigger' victory.

Of course Bernie was no Obama. He wasn't useless.

As for the Democratic Primary, he's pretty much a shoe in unless the Super Delegates band together to basically ignore the primary results. Which I would not in any way be shocked by.
 

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