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Jormungandr

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Eh, I don't think they were talented enough to fix it.

The reality was that RT existed at a very particular time period where indie animation wasn't as rare and was much less competitive. RWBY made sense as a free series made on a tight budget by very talented people. Pretty much the same with Red vs Blue.

But trying to turn Rooster Teeth into a streaming service, making higher budget shows, etc. was always a dumb idea that wasn't going to work.
I remember the hype for Volume 4, and IIRC it was why I first subbed to Rooster Teeth. I also remember the divisive opinions on it after it had finished airing, and the subsequent, increasing rabidization of the fanbase (especially shippers with the Rainbow Tumour shit).

Then the studio went full on Leftist, pro-Tumour, and it all crumbled; then they sold out.

The writing was pretty much on the wall then.
 

DarthOne

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I remember the hype for Volume 4, and IIRC it was why I first subbed to Rooster Teeth. I also remember the divisive opinions on it after it had finished airing, and the subsequent, increasing rabidization of the fanbase (especially shippers with the Rainbow Tumour shit).

Then the studio went full on Leftist, pro-Tumour, and it all crumbled; then they sold out.

The writing was pretty much on the wall then.
I got into the fandom somewhere around early season 3. So yeah, it was around season 4 that the shipping quickly went from 'cute, occasionally weird but ultimately mostly harmless' to 'tumblr rainbow mafia shit'.
 

Jormungandr

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I got into the fandom somewhere around early season 3. So yeah, it was around season 4 that the shipping quickly went from 'cute, occasionally weird but ultimately mostly harmless' to 'tumblr rainbow mafia shit'.
A case-study about the mental stability of the shippers degrading over the period of just a few years would be fascinating, and it'd be a warning not to let Rainbow Tumour shit infiltrate things.

It always ends badly. :(
 

SoliFortissimi

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As always, the progressive messaging was a ploy to paper over the increasingly bad writing.

That's what it always is. It's pandering to the loudest, craziest voices in the fandom. Young adults who base their entire personality on their hobbies, like the western version of Otakus..

You know how western fans keep complaining about how anime keeps adding sexual fanservice to keep pandering to Otakus that spend the most on merchandise because their entire life revolves around fiction? I wonder how many realize the parallels.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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As always, the progressive messaging was a ploy to paper over the increasingly bad writing.

That's what it always is. It's pandering to the loudest, craziest voices in the fandom. Young adults who base their entire personality on their hobbies, like the western version of Otakus..

You know how western fans keep complaining about how anime keeps adding sexual fanservice to keep pandering to Otakus that spend the most on merchandise because their entire life revolves around fiction? I wonder how many realize the parallels.
It's kinda funny: While they did basically ruin the Gods' backstories with the last volume (originating them from a fucking pseudo Alice in Wonderland clone), the concept of the volume itself (and Ruby's character development) was actually quite good and fit with the "fable" theme the series had going on, and it actually was better than the prior volumes' storylines. It still just... didn't fit RWBY somehow, though (again except for Ruby growing as a character).

But the bad writing, pandering to Rainbow Tumour shit, and overall quality? Yeah, RWBY had been in decline for years. smh

At least Chibi was fucking hilarious, but that's because it stuck to a pre-Volume 4 setting and went crazy with the cheese.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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I would argue that RWBY was half baked from the start. From the beginning the writers made everything up as they went along.
Oh, no doubt about that (Monty didn't even come up with the Maiden thing until like volume 2?), and he was basically writing it as it went on in development.

Thing is, it was so early and the setting so basic (highschool for superheroes, basically) that it didn't matter at that stage. After he passed and the studio had to actually world-build and create more expansive, cohesive storylines than what was in volumes 1--3, that's when it all fell apart.
 

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