"Woke" Franchises

[Zyobot]

Removing and altering "racist" lines here and there. Plus a disclaimer in all books, lest anyone think that the publishers condone horrible WrongThink. Can't have that!

Just wait. It'll only get worse. It's like... George Lucas and the "special editions". They'll keep tinkering. More edits every time. And they'll do everything to get the originals out of circulation. If you rely on cloud-based digital editions... they'll edit the versions in your library.

If you love something, buy the original, and buy it second-hand if you can. Because otherwise you're still giving money to the enemy. (Besides, second-hand bookshops should be treasured.)

*Archiving everything intensifies.*

More seriously, while there's certainly something to your advice, I also think this'll incentivize those paying attention to find (often legally grey) ways of preserving the original content. Sure, Big Media will no doubt lobby for the government to start cracking down, but will that stop it? Honestly, I don't know that it will — not to mention how the government and ruling class's priorities are likely to be elsewhere, once the larger geopolitical situation becomes combustible.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

"Sensitivity reader" I can't tell if it leans more into morality policing or an outright scam.

 

[The Iron Monocle]

We need to start calling out evil as evil to its face, because that is what is behind post-modern 'woke' movement. Old fashioned whiff of sulfur about it Evil. Because big money backs it to the hilt. That is why writers and creators should only retain copyright until they die, because all too often their heirs have no interest in being a faithful custodian to their parent and are looking to cash out. Once a writer dies, their works should immediately enter the public domain.

Yes, there will be the evil vandals who wish to denigrate and destroy, but the public domain allows those who wish to preserve the legacy to do so.

 

[Jaenera Targaryen]

We need to start calling out evil as evil to its face, because that is what is behind post-modern 'woke' movement. Old fashioned whiff of sulfur about it Evil. Because big money backs it to the hilt. That is why writers and creators should only retain copyright until they die, because all too often their heirs have no interest in being a faithful custodian to their parent and are looking to cash out. Once a writer dies, their works should immediately enter the public domain.

Yes, there will be the evil vandals who wish to denigrate and destroy, but the public domain allows those who wish to preserve the legacy to do so.

This is true. And thankfully a lot of the classics are public domain, from Ancient Greco-Roman works through medieval and early modern works.

That said, nothing can truly replace the written word. Thankfully, I've got copies of many of the good stuff, such as compilations of H.P. Lovecraft's works. Makes me wonder how long until they touch his stuff, man was notoriously racist even by the standards of his time.

 

[DarthOne]

This is true. And thankfully a lot of the classics are public domain, from Ancient Greco-Roman works through medieval and early modern works.

That said, nothing can truly replace the written word. Thankfully, I've got copies of many of the good stuff, such as compilations of H.P. Lovecraft's works. Makes me wonder how long until they touch his stuff, man was notoriously racist even by the standards of his time.

I’m not so sure about the ‘Lovecraft was racist even for the time’ thing. For starters he did have a lot of respect for certain non-white civilizations, such as the Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians (remember Italians and Greeks weren’t considered ‘white’ back then).

Plus it just seems like an easy way to poison the well in regards to Lovecraft’s work and accomplishments.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

HP Lovecraft being 'racist by the standards of the time' probably depends heavily on the nation in question.
I mean if people think American racism of the early 1900's was bad, it doesn't hold a candle to Australia and Tasmania lmao.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Personally I couldn't care less if Lovecraft was racist, His works are all he should be judged by and they happen to be something that stands the test of time.

 

[Crom's Black Blade]

I’m not so sure about the ‘Lovecraft was racist even for the time’ thing. For starters he did have a lot of respect for certain non-white civilizations, such as the Ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians (remember Italians and Greeks weren’t considered ‘white’ back then).

Plus it just seems like an easy way to poison the well in regards to Lovecraft’s work and accomplishments.

I'd have to agree, from his works I've read he never struck me as particularly more racist than anyone else from his era and geography. So I'd be curious where exactly the notion actually came from or it it was, as you suggest, meant to tarnish the Grandmaster of Cosmic horror's reputation.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Lovecraft was quite Xenophobic. This looks like racism if you don't understand what culture is and think everything comes down to skin color, but Lovecraft didn't like white people who weren't part of his in-group either. Quite a lot of things in Lovecraft are horrifying to the writer just because they're foreign, whether it's eating foods he didn't like (dude seemed to have issues with seafood), speaking other tongues, or using other forms of architecture; brought to its logical maximum in how every alien causes a mental breakdown just by existing.

In the modern era with globalization being everywhere, this is far more "problematic" than when it was written. Fearing foreign cultures and influence is anathema but they can't say that quiet part aloud so it's reinterpreted as racism. That said I don't think there's any question he was racist, but how much more so than the culture he lived in is a question.

 

[*THASF*]

Lovecraft was quite Xenophobic. This looks like racism if you don't understand what culture is and think everything comes down to skin color, but Lovecraft didn't like white people who weren't part of his in-group either. Quite a lot of things in Lovecraft are horrifying to the writer just because they're foreign, whether it's eating foods he didn't like (dude seemed to have issues with seafood), speaking other tongues, or using other forms of architecture; brought to its logical maximum in how every alien causes a mental breakdown just by existing.

In the modern era with globalization being everywhere, this is far more "problematic" than when it was written. Fearing foreign cultures and influence is anathema but they can't say that quiet part aloud so it's reinterpreted as racism. That said I don't think there's any question he was racist, but how much more so than the culture he lived in is a question.

H.P. Lovecraft grew up in near-total isolation from society and was very picky about everything as a result. He captured his own fear of the unknown in his work, to great effect.

 

[Jaenera Targaryen]

Personally I couldn't care less if Lovecraft was racist, His works are all he should be judged by and they happen to be something that stands the test of time.

Oh, I quite agree. His racism or xenophobia or whatever was simply the norm of the time, and really shouldn't be held against him, otherwise we'd be left with empty libraries...oh, wait...

...yeah, that said, I really couldn't care less about his attitudes, if anything, it helped him write some of the best short fiction I have ever read.

Lovecraft was quite Xenophobic. This looks like racism if you don't understand what culture is and think everything comes down to skin color, but Lovecraft didn't like white people who weren't part of his in-group either. Quite a lot of things in Lovecraft are horrifying to the writer just because they're foreign, whether it's eating foods he didn't like (dude seemed to have issues with seafood), speaking other tongues, or using other forms of architecture; brought to its logical maximum in how every alien causes a mental breakdown just by existing.

In the modern era with globalization being everywhere, this is far more "problematic" than when it was written. Fearing foreign cultures and influence is anathema but they can't say that quiet part aloud so it's reinterpreted as racism. That said I don't think there's any question he was racist, but how much more so than the culture he lived in is a question.

Best clarification I've ever read of Lovecraft's attitudes.

I imagine he'd have been equally horrified that BioWare reimagined him as French in Dragon Age Inquisition

Behold! Baron Havard-Pierre d'Amortisan (H.P. Lovecraft in French)!

LMAO

 

[ATP]

H.P. Lovecraft grew up in near-total isolation from society and was very picky about everything as a result. He captured his own fear of the unknown in his work, to great effect.

Yes.He not only created his own gods,but supposed to made offerings for them.

 

[Jaenera Targaryen]

Yes.He not only created his own gods,but supposed to made offerings for them.

Eh, at this point, I'm so jaded with the world I probably wouldn't mind making an offering or two to the Outer Gods if I thought it might do me some good.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I imagine he'd have been equally horrified that BioWare reimagined him as French in Dragon Age Inquisition

Behold! Baron Havard-Pierre d'Amortisan (H.P. Lovecraft in French)!

LMAO

Could be worse if the Japanese had their way all historical figures would be either waifus or traps.

 

[Jaenera Targaryen]

Could be worse if the Japanese had their way all historical figures would be either waifus or traps.

Yeah, I'm getting rather sick of that cliche myself.

The worst part is that they still have better writing than most Western media these days.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

So...

The trailer for Disney's new Peter Pan adaption has dropped.

It's as bad as you'd think.



Fuck me I'm pissed off over this. Peter Pan was a childhood story of preference for me when I was a little lad.

 

[Robovski]

Just this ongoing trashfire of remakes of classic movies. I'd like to hope that they lose money but I know people go to see these. Can't miss dimly-lit black Tinkerbell!

 

[Batrix2070]

It's as bad as you'd think.

I think this is shit and the creators of this work should be sent to work very fucking hard like slaves on the galley.
Did I guess right?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

So...

The trailer for Disney's new Peter Pan adaption has dropped.

It's as bad as you'd think.

this looks like a fan film.

 

[Scooby Doo]

So...

The trailer for Disney's new Peter Pan adaption has dropped.

It's as bad as you'd think.



Fuck me I'm pissed off over this. Peter Pan was a childhood story of preference for me when I was a little lad.

Of course Tinkerbell would be Black 😂