"Woke" Franchises

[DarthOne]

As usual, the most damning criticism of Wendig is simply to repost his own shit writing without further commentary, so here you go:

And to think, they dumped the old EU for this shit.

 

[Deleted member 88]

I just saw an article on CBR explaining why giving up the old EU was a good thing. It was basically “uh we would not have gotten the Mandalorian”.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

As usual, the most damning criticism of Wendig is simply to repost his own shit writing without further commentary, so here you go:

Wow there's a lot of grammer mistake why do they keep adding a z to every.....*TRIGGERED*

 

[DarthOne]

I just saw an article on CBR explaining why giving up the old EU was a good thing. It was basically “uh we would not have gotten the Mandalorian”.

The Mandalorian is a best okay to good. And given Filoni is getting his tentacles into the next season, I don’t think it’ll stay that way for long. Bloody Ashoka.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

The Mandalorian is a best okay to good. And given Filoni is getting his tentacles into the next season, I don’t think it’ll stay that way for long. Bloody Ashoka.

....I like ashoka, but thing is mando is probably have been somthing that would have been created whether the EU was gone or not, and honestly he seemed to reference the EU often then not.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Chuck Wendig and other serial feminist abusers being called out by the ladies they work with.

Fiction Author Jaym Gates Claims Former Star Wars Author Chuck Wendig “Stomped All Over Women to Prove He’s the Best Feminist”

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Its quite the epic article. Many many tweets.

While I have doubts as to whether or not this is all true as we only have her word to go by it rather than any recordings and dates, as to what exactly happened

Those White Liberal types making use of #MeToo to get rid of “POC” creators sounds pretty iffy, if only because if they do that they’d sound really racist and racism is more offensive than sexism and they wouldn’t risk that

 

[DarthOne]

....I like ashoka, but thing is mando is probably have been somthing that would have been created whether the EU was gone or not, and honestly he seemed to reference the EU often then not.

He very much picks and chooses what he likes. Not to mention he’s more then willing to throw even the movies out the windows.

For example, the behavior of the average clone trooper in TCW doesn’t at all match up with what we’re told in AotC; ‘genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent’.

There’s also the fact that he blatantly ignores the wider EU and the Clone Wars multimedia project. Including retconing character deaths, massive changes to planets and societies and characterization. And I’m not just talking about poor Grievous, Dooku or the ridiculous resurrection of Maul.

Also, Ashoka doesn’t at all fit in with established lore or the idea of Anakin getting a padawan or his Knighthood so soon after Genonosis. Look at how Anakin not only acted but his choices in AotC. Do you really think the Jedi Order of that time would give him a padawan?

Not to mention how TCW doesn’t really do Anakin or Obi-Wan justice. Anakin is just sort of bland and doesn’t have much of a character arc. And Obi-Wan is much more...I guess ‘sarcastic’ is as good a word as any, then he usually was.

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

....I like ashoka, but thing is mando is probably have been somthing that would have been created whether the EU was gone or not, and honestly he seemed to reference the EU often then not.

See here's the thing: references aren't respectful by definition. I'd rather have them just ignore the EU completely and do their own thing, than keep wearing an EU skinsuit Buffalo Bill style and keep expecting people to see it as anything other than a patronizing insult.

 

[DarthOne]

See here's the thing: references aren't respectful by definition. I'd rather have them just ignore the EU completely and do their own thing, than keep wearing an EU skinsuit Buffalo Bill style and keep expecting people to see it as anything other than a patronizing insult.

Exactly!

 

[ParadiseLost]

Daily reminder that you are not The Mandalorians target audience and Disney doesn't give a fuck what you want.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

He very much picks and chooses what he likes. Not to mention he’s more then willing to throw even the movies out the windows.

For example, the behavior of the average clone trooper in TCW doesn’t at all match up with what we’re told in AotC; ‘genetically modified to be more obedient and less independent’.

There’s also the fact that he blatantly ignores the wider EU and the Clone Wars multimedia project. Including retconing character deaths, massive changes to planets and societies and characterization. And I’m not just talking about poor Grievous, Dooku or the ridiculous resurrection of Maul.

Also, Ashoka doesn’t at all fit in with established lore or the idea of Anakin getting a padawan or his Knighthood so soon after Genonosis. Look at how Anakin not only acted but his choices in AotC. Do you really think the Jedi Order of that time would give him a padawan?

Not to mention how TCW doesn’t really do Anakin or Obi-Wan justice. Anakin is just sort of bland and doesn’t have much of a character arc. And Obi-Wan is much more...I guess ‘sarcastic’ is as good a word as any, then he usually was.

Mnadalore was my only real big gripe, and honestly I think TCW saved Anakin's character. The movies frankly made Anakin look like a psychopathic washout, which would be fine if it wasin't for the way Obi-Wan talks about anakin in ANH. Unless you want to say that literally EVERYTHING obi-wan said about anakin was BS, which to me kind of invalidates luke's whole arc. Again though, I dispised the prequels.

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

Daily reminder that you are not The Mandalorians target audience and Disney doesn't give a fuck what you want.

I bet you like plucking the wings off butterflies, too.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Daily reminder that you are not The Mandalorians target audience and Disney doesn't give a fuck what you want.

I bet you like plucking the wings off butterflies, too.

Come on guys let's stay civil here.

 

[DarthOne]

Mnadalore was my only real big gripe, and honestly I think TCW saved Anakin's character. The movies frankly made Anakin looke like a psychopathic washout, which would be fine if it wasin't for the way Obi-Wan talks about anakin in ANH. Unless you want to say that literally EVERYTHING obi-wan said about anakin was BS, which to me kind of invalidates luke's whole are. Again though, I dispised the prequels.

In regards to the movies, yes. In regards to the rest of the Classic EU set in that era, he’s not that bad...most of the time.

 

[Certified_Heterosexual]

Come on guys let's stay civil here.

I was making a joke.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I was making a joke.

not sure if it's my genes or my experiences, but those kind of jokes often go woosh.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I bet you like plucking the wings off butterflies, too.

That’s something straight out of Baki

 

[Husky_Khan]

Well the Fortnite hosted Black Lives Matter event happened...



Seemed like a stupid idea anyhow.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Well the Fortnite hosted Black Lives Matter event happened...



Seemed like a stupid idea anyhow.

Wow....some people are getting banned from playing and the guys in-charge are gonna be doing a bunch of "apologies"

 

[Culsu]

The lovely people at Wizards of the Coast being extra woke.

Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is strength, for only a diverse group of adventurers can overcome the many challenges a D&D story presents. In that spirit, making D&D as welcoming and inclusive as possible has moved to the forefront of our priorities over the last six years. We’d like to share with you what we’ve been doing, and what we plan to do in the future to address legacy D&D content that does not reflect who we are today. We recognize that doing this isn’t about getting to a place where we can rest on our laurels but continuing to head in the right direction. We feel that being transparent about it is the best way to let our community help us to continue to calibrate our efforts.

One of the explicit design goals of 5th edition D&D is to depict humanity in all its beautiful diversity by depicting characters who represent an array of ethnicities, gender identities, sexual orientations, and beliefs. We want everyone to feel at home around the game table and to see positive reflections of themselves within our products. “Human” in D&D means everyone, not just fantasy versions of northern Europeans, and the D&D community is now more diverse than it’s ever been.

Throughout the 50-year history of D&D, some of the peoples in the game—orcs and drow being two of the prime examples—have been characterized as monstrous and evil, using descriptions that are painfully reminiscent of how real-world ethnic groups have been and continue to be denigrated. That’s just not right, and it’s not something we believe in. Despite our conscious efforts to the contrary, we have allowed some of those old descriptions to reappear in the game. We recognize that to live our values, we have to do an even better job in handling these issues. If we make mistakes, our priority is to make things right.

Here’s what we’re doing to improve:

• We present orcs and drow in a new light in two of our most recent books, Eberron: Rising from the Last War and Explorer's Guide to Wildemount. In those books, orcs and drow are just as morally and culturally complex as other peoples. We will continue that approach in future books, portraying all the peoples of D&D in relatable ways and making it clear that they are as free as humans to decide who they are and what they do.
  
• When every D&D book is reprinted, we have an opportunity to correct errors that we or the broader D&D community discovered in that book. Each year, we use those opportunities to fix a variety of things, including errors in judgment. In recent reprintings of Tomb of Annihilation and Curse of Strahd, for example, we changed text that was racially insensitive. Those reprints have already been printed and will be available in the months ahead. We will continue this process, reviewing each book as it comes up for a reprint and fixing such errors where they are present.
  
• Later this year, we will release a product (not yet announced) that offers a way for a player to customize their character’s origin, including the option to change the ability score increases that come from being an elf, a dwarf, or one of D&D's many other playable folk. This option emphasizes that each person in the game is an individual with capabilities all their own.
  
• Curse of Strahd included a people known as the Vistani and featured the Vistani heroine Ezmerelda. Regrettably, their depiction echoes some stereotypes associated with the Romani people in the real world. To rectify that, we’ve not only made changes to Curse of Strahd, but in two upcoming books, we will also show—working with a Romani consultant—the Vistani in a way that doesn’t rely on reductive tropes.
  
• We've received valuable insights from sensitivity readers on two of our recent books. We are incorporating sensitivity readers into our creative process, and we will continue to reach out to experts in various fields to help us identify our blind spots.
  
• We're proactively seeking new, diverse talent to join our staff and our pool of freelance writers and artists. We’ve brought in contributors who reflect the beautiful diversity of the D&D community to work on books coming out in 2021. We're going to invest even more in this approach and add a broad range of new voices to join the chorus of D&D storytelling.

And we will continue to listen to you all. We created 5th edition in conversation with the D&D community. It's a conversation that continues to this day. That's at the heart of our work—listening to the community, learning what brings you joy, and doing everything we can to provide it in every one of our books.

This part of our work will never end. We know that every day someone finds the courage to voice their truth, and we’re here to listen. We are eternally grateful for the ongoing dialog with the D&D community, and we look forward to continuing to improve D&D for generations to come.