China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Cherico]

Elaborate on why for both and if you have sources I am more than willing to read them.

all systems have trade offs good things and bad things, I don't think going with a totiltarian government is a good idea period but there are some very limited benifits thought its mostly bad concentrated power in general is bad.

Feudalism is an entire series of books because it was by nature not uniform.

We would need a seperate thread to deal with all of that.

 

[Chiron]

That was found to be a full on lie... And not even just of the misinterpreting data type lie, but full on people making stuff up.

The actual data showed.

The NEJM Article is based on falsified data and you once again demonstrate you have nothing to contribute.

Pfizer lied in its submissions for EUA, tried to hide it, and was forced to release the safety data by court order.

The Vaccines are not safe, useless, and you are a misinformation spreader.

 

[Agent23]

And Tripe stew!

 

[TheRejectionist]

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Elaborate on why for both and if you have sources I am more than willing to read them.

Feudalism was the same system that had more civil wars relative to their lifespans than any other form of Governemnt ever and half those civil wars were over slights to honor or to avenge a wrong perpetrated against the vassals or serfs beholden to the bigger, badder Lords by the King.

They took their duty to rule seriously and they didn't just sit on their asses and play with their dicks while the poor suffered so long as the threat against the poor came from outside. These fuckers believed God demanded that they go butcher thousands of people to avenge their favorite minor lord or peanut farmer because it was their heavenly duty to oversee them and rule them.

The down side to feudalism was that they could do what ever they wanted to their poor people just not someone else's.

Oh and growth and upward mobility was a literal Sin.

You couldn't ever be more than a serf, it was an affront to God, an act of baseless greed and a rebellious insult to your overlord to dare to dream of a better world for your kids. That's why so many fairy tales and fables involve parents being overjoyed to find out that their kids were secret princes and then you notice they never left their shithole to go with their kids? It was enough the kids could "return to their original fate."

That's why neofeludist systems like communism and the Vax cult enforced megacorp Feudalism they're trying to force on us now fail.

They aren't really feudal they're more like...to borrow a phrase from the Boondocks.

Thuggocracies.

Can't have serfs buying into a system that forces eternal poverty on them and their generations by blackpilling society alone

You need to give them a reason to want to be happy and poor as they labor but that udder dried up.

 

[Bacle]

The FDA removed the EUAs for two of the mono-clonal anti-body treatments, but not the vax's which are actually causing harm.

Fucking clown show; they are trying to remove all treatment options except the vax's.

 

[*THASF*]

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when this all collapses its all going to collapse hard.

It's already collapsing.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Pharma execs and a lot of bureaucrats within the CDC and the HHS and the NIH need to be tried with the death penalty on the table as an option.

Heads have to roll for this.

 

[Cherico]

It's already collapsing.

Wow 2020 is becoming more of a poisoned chalice each year.

 

[Scottty]

The excessive boosters being pushed and the people who get them reminds me of a drug dealer/drug user type situation and the horror stories ive heard of what addicts will do to get their next fix has convinced me that it is the perfect way to control people.

Drug addicts behave like that because of the withdrawal symptoms. Their brains have become dependent on the drugs in order to function.
But we don't - yet - see the people pushing boosters hiking up the price of them. So far, at least here in South Africa, the "vaccine" is offered for free.

But then... isn't that what a drug dealer sometimes does, to start with? Hmm.

 

[Agent23]

Drug addicts behave like that because of the withdrawal symptoms. Their brains have become dependent on the drugs in order to function.
But we don't - yet - see the people pushing boosters hiking up the price of them. So far, at least here in South Africa, the "vaccine" is offered for free.

But then... isn't that what a drug dealer sometimes does, to start with? Hmm.

This is most of the left right now:

 

[Agent23]

Well considering MSM never acknowledged the satellite imagery from China showing massive cremations indicating hundreds of thousands dead and "Western Governments" for their own reasons never did either, we can safely say the Chinese lost at least 2 million plus people during the Pandemic's opening months.

Given its poor environmental and food/drug regulations, the Chinese were particularly vulnerable to the virus on top of having more Ace 2 receptors by dint of their average blood type. And the Chinese Government is run by a man who shoots the messenger, so underlings are too afraid to bring bad news to him as their incentives are skewed to hide problems.

Frankly given the recklessness of China's communist government and the threat it poses, we need to seriously consider the ultimate sanction of giving the Communist Government an ultimatum to surrender unconditionally and be replaced by the Republic of China (Taiwan) or be subjected to nuclear bombardment till they surrender or we run out of legitimate military targets and weaken them enough that the Republic of China can retake the main land and begin the process of rebuilding and rooting out the CCP deep state.

I don't say this lightly, but if China insists on messing around with gain of function research and violating every safeguard and then lying, we simply can't allow that to continue and given its size and arsenal, nuclear weapons are justified and called for. Especially as China via its neglect, loosed a bioweapon on the world and lied to us for months about it.

IMHO the MSM and the US bureaucracy are not pushing this because Fauci and his buddies in the swamp financed the project.
If they push China about it, then China will probably push right back, saying that research was done on their orders, thus shifting the blame to them.
Hell, they might even say that they wanted to be diplomatic with the USA by hiding their involvement.

 

[Agent23]

The FDA removed the EUAs for two of the mono-clonal anti-body treatments, but not the vax's which are actually causing harm.

Fucking clown show; they are trying to remove all treatment options except the vax's.

Are monoclonal antibodies even effective against Omicron, which has pushed out everything as it is the Chad strain?

In any case, soon this will all be moot, once Chadmicron pushes through all the population and mass inoculates everyone and once more damning stats about actual mortality come to the surface.

Me, I was hoping that the multi-jabbed would get a more violent reaction to Omicron, read lots diarrhea and puking, but we ill probably have to settle for it just making everyone immune.

It already has a lower 'side effect' rate than the human-made vaccines and should be FDA approved, not that it gives a crap, of course.

 

[Scottty]

Are monoclonal antibodies even effective against Omicron, which has pushed out everything as it is the Chad strain?

In any case, soon this will all be moot, once Chadmicron pushes through all the population and mass inoculates everyone and once more damning stats about actual mortality come to the surface.

Me, I was hoping that the multi-jabbed would get a more violent reaction to Omicron, read lots diarrhea and puking, but we ill probably have to settle for it just making everyone immune.

It already has a lower 'side effect' rate than the human-made vaccines and should be FDA approved, not that it gives a crap, of course.

Like cowpox to smallpox.

Imagine if you lived in a world were everyone was expected to get monthly "booster" jabs against Smallpox, and Polio, and Cholera, and Malaria, and Anthrax, and and and...

 

[Agent23]

Like cowpox to smallpox.

Imagine if you lived in a world were everyone was expected to get monthly "booster" jabs against Smallpox, and Polio, and Cholera, and Malaria, and Anthrax, and and and...

Between the economic damage, the milder symptoms and the new data surfacing, the Left/progressives' insane, cult-like totalitarian approach will bite them in the ass, the mouth doing the biting hopefully being one of Jaws Shark proportions.

They are megalomaniacal control freaks with policies that have little to do with objective reality, and this whole situation will likely redpill more people.

Progressivism/Leftism, btw is to a large extent hereditary according to one study I read way back when, and it was also strongly linked with other bad traits like vindictiveness, megalomania and totalitarianism, it would be lovely if Omicron mutates to go after those genes.

Also, I am pretty sure that a lot of rightwingers will be more than happy to permit abortion if liberal genetics can be screened for, you know, like other congenital defects - down's syndrome and the like.

Come one, come all, get your designer babies, no SJWitis and no Cancer.

And yes, I am being ironic here, however I am pretty sure the left would love to unironically do the same to libertarians and rightwingers.

 

[TheRejectionist]

I miss when Progressivism was with the "live and let live ideology".

I think to remember a quote that said that inevitably all ideologies reach an apex of totalitarianism.

 

[Scottty]

I miss when Progressivism was with the "live and let live ideology".

I think to remember a quote that said that inevitably all ideologies reach an apex of totalitarianism.

Some of them sincerely wanted to live and let live.
But some of them probably all along just wanted you to let them live, so that they could grow to become powerful enough to not have to let you live.

 

[Wargamer08]

Some of them sincerely wanted to live and let live.
But some of them probably all along just wanted you to let them live, so that they could grow to become powerful enough to not have to let you live.

Well politics is the art of saying nice doggie while you reach for a stick.

 

[LordsFire]

I miss when Progressivism was with the "live and let live ideology".

I think to remember a quote that said that inevitably all ideologies reach an apex of totalitarianism.

Progressivism was never about live-and-let-live, it was always about seizing power and exercising it. Going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.

The progressives did used to be a lot better at maintaining the mask that fooled so many of their voters, though.

 

[Bacle]

Progressivism was never about live-and-let-live, it was always about seizing power and exercising it. Going all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.

The progressives did used to be a lot better at maintaining the mask that fooled so many of their voters, though.

Woodrow Wilson wasn't a 'progressive' and it's stupid to call him such.

Teddy Roosevelt was an actual Progressive, back when it was a good thing and not insane; his works with the Nat'l Parks was pure old school progressivism.

Woodrow Wilson was a regressive, what with resegregating the US military, the KKK marches and such in DC, and the fact he wanted Versailles to be so bad in order to weaken European powers.

The Wu Flu changed many things, but it will never make Wilson a progressive.