China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
Never take the vaccine if you can avoid it. I am absolutely convinced that it's poison.

I left my job when they mandated it.

I'll never get this shot, even if I believed it was safe. Which I don't.

No, just the way the government, my job, etc tried to force it on me was enough for me to take a stand and say "no."

Now with all the news coming around, I am fucking glad I didn't.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
I left my job when they mandated it.

I'll never get this shot, even if I believed it was safe. Which I don't.

No, just the way the government, my job, etc tried to force it on me was enough for me to take a stand and say "no."

Now with all the news coming around, I am fucking glad I didn't.
I'm still terrified that I'm going to end up with health problems later in life, thanks to getting it myself. On that note; thankfully, my father's kidneys are getting better. It no longer looks like he's going to need dialysis anytime soon.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
I'm still terrified that I'm going to end up with health problems later in life, thanks to getting it myself. On that note; thankfully, my father's kidneys are getting better. It no longer looks like he's going to need dialysis anytime soon.
Best of luck to you and your family.

I really hope you don't develop any negative effects from it.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
Look! Now that Covid is gone...



We have a new pandemic to worry about! One that is actually dangerous! Can't wait to play this fucking game all over again.


We litterally used up all of our social capital for this shit over two years, and used up a whole bunch of our money as well. And we are entering into a global fincial crunch. People are already fucking pissed another 2 years of this shit....
 

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
It gets worse. This one already has a vaccine that was patented in 2019 which makes it even more sus than Covid. But the real kicker? Smallpox vaccine is about 85% effective against it, meaning even if push comes to shove you can just ask for the old Smallpox stuff and it will keep you safe.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Look! Now that Covid is gone...



We have a new pandemic to worry about! One that is actually dangerous! Can't wait to play this fucking game all over again.
Just in time for the midterms...

Yeah, lets not pretend the Dems and Biden's aren't in cahoots with the CCP.
It gets worse. This one already has a vaccine that was patented in 2019 which makes it even more sus than Covid. But the real kicker? Smallpox vaccine is about 85% effective against it, meaning even if push comes to shove you can just ask for the old Smallpox stuff and it will keep you safe.
Hey, that's good news; the smallpox vax is a known quantity, has known risk profiles, and rather readily available, if this does turn into something.

As long as this doesn't turn into some 28 Days Later shit, we don't have emuch to fear from this, if it's anything at all.
 

ATP

Well-known member
Just in time for the midterms...

Yeah, lets not pretend the Dems and Biden's aren't in cahoots with the CCP.
Hey, that's good news; the smallpox vax is a known quantity, has known risk profiles, and rather readily available, if this does turn into something.

As long as this doesn't turn into some 28 Days Later shit, we don't have emuch to fear from this, if it's anything at all.

1.Of course,that they are cooperating
2.It could be worse then 28 days later.Imagine pandemic which made you vote for Biden no matter what he did....
 

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
They still vaxx all soldiers because of the threat of bio weapons and terrorism right? Or did they stop and pick it back up after 9/11?

How bad is it? Can you describe it?
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
They still vaxx all soldiers because of the threat of bio weapons and terrorism right? Or did they stop and pick it back up after 9/11?

How bad is it? Can you describe it?
Those that go over seas or deploy yeah.
For instance every soldier that goes to Korea has to get it. As does thier family if they want.
Basically ther are two ways. A little gun thing that shoots a bunch of needles into your arm that have the pox on it or like I got and got poked like 13 or 20 tones with a needle by hand.
It then gets covered in a band aid and for two weeks you keep it on, not removing it unless told to.
You go back get it checked out they say if it is good or not, and to get a new bandaid. Then you get for a week, then it should be good and they say you are good.

You basically carry around live cow pox.
 

Bassoe

Well-known member
Hey, don't blame the transhumanists for all this nonsense. Depends on which subfaction you're talking about:
  1. Optimizers. Essentially any engineer overdesigning something, but for biology. The logical outgrowth of medicine, treating things like "death of old age", "not having a thousand-point IQ" or "inconvenient requirements for air, water, food, gravity, absence of radiation, etc limit potentially habitable portions of the universe to an infinitesimally small percentage of what's known to exist" as diseases to be cured rather than merely the human condition.
  2. Hedonists. Just want to plug their brains into more entertaining simulated realities and endless (assuming nobody unplugs the holodeck from the outside, none of the automated machinery breaks down and there's a definite end to their entire subfaction in a single generation when they eventually die without offspring since their holographic waifus cannot be impregnated) hedonism.
These are weird little pseudo-religions, not threats. The dearest wish of both subfactions is to leave, either the planet or reality in favor of simulations, after which, you'll never have to deal with them again.

The problem is that the transhumanists ignore the implications of the technology their dreams require for dystopian societal control. Someone turning themselves into a superman or a vegetable in a matrix pod is irreverent, the threat is when the same technologies used to do so allow one percent of the population rule the other ninety-nine with servitization of prosthetic vital organs and ketracel-white monopolies.

And in any case, I really don't see what that's got to do with covid and the shots and quarantine imposed supposedly to beat covid. There's no reason to imagine a complicated conspiracy requiring multiple colossal technological breakthroughs when there's a perfectly simple one staring you in the face.
 

Iconoclast

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Hey, don't blame the transhumanists for all this nonsense. Depends on which subfaction you're talking about:
  1. Optimizers. Essentially any engineer overdesigning something, but for biology. The logical outgrowth of medicine, treating things like "death of old age", "not having a thousand-point IQ" or "inconvenient requirements for air, water, food, gravity, absence of radiation, etc limit potentially habitable portions of the universe to an infinitesimally small percentage of what's known to exist" as diseases to be cured rather than merely the human condition.
  2. Hedonists. Just want to plug their brains into more entertaining simulated realities and endless (assuming nobody unplugs the holodeck from the outside, none of the automated machinery breaks down and there's a definite end to their entire subfaction in a single generation when they eventually die without offspring since their holographic waifus cannot be impregnated) hedonism.
These are weird little pseudo-religions, not threats. The dearest wish of both subfactions is to leave, either the planet or reality in favor of simulations, after which, you'll never have to deal with them again.

The problem is that the transhumanists ignore the implications of the technology their dreams require for dystopian societal control. Someone turning themselves into a superman or a vegetable in a matrix pod is irreverent, the threat is when the same technologies used to do so allow one percent of the population rule the other ninety-nine with servitization of prosthetic vital organs and ketracel-white monopolies.

And in any case, I really don't see what that's got to do with covid and the shots and quarantine imposed supposedly to beat covid. There's no reason to imagine a complicated conspiracy requiring multiple colossal technological breakthroughs when there's a perfectly simple one staring you in the face.

I actually am a transhumanist, myself, with a little of Category 1 and a little of Category 2. No one who isn't a transhumanist could have figured all this out so easily. It seems the powers-that-be are doing exactly what I feared they would a whole decade ago.

There's a third faction. The Menticidals. This group consists of Deep Staters who see transhuman technological advancements not as an opportunity to enhance human lifespan and capabilities (aside perhaps from a small cadre of insiders), but to reduce mankind to a state of chattel slavery.

Brain-computer interfaces are a double-edged sword. Remember Meatfucker from the Cultureverse? A so-called neural lace is not just an entertainment device and a fantastic tool. It is also both a perfect torture device and a means of controlling people's emotions and affective states. When paired with big data, GPS tracking, and all-encompassing surveillance, it is possible to "biodrone" people to such an extent that they could be made to vote for any political candidate, or espouse any conceivable ideological viewpoint, even by very crude methods such as stimulating the limbic system to create euphoria or anxiety at varying times.

This isn't even hypothetical. Reading off and stimulating key brain regions like the amygdala (which governs anxiety) and the nucleus accumbens (which governs reward) is something that has already been done with DBS electrodes.



If nanotransducers could be localized in these regions and selectively energized with wireless power transmission, they would be able to control human emotions with a high degree of precision, creating an aversive stimulus whenever someone did something the system did not approve, or a sense of euphoria and positive reinforcement for "prosocial" actions. When this tech is combined with 5G beamforming base stations, IOT, and Smart City tech, it creates a system of 24/7 total surveillance, from which there is no escape. Basically, like a prison.



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This isn't the cool transhumanism where you become an immortal 1000 IQ demigod who can smack skyscrapers in half with your enormous shlong. This is the lame, paternalistic, dystopian nightmare transhumanism where everything is an Apple Watch embedded under your skin and constantly sends your brain and health data to private companies.
 

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
Hey, don't blame the transhumanists for all this nonsense. Depends on which subfaction you're talking about:
  1. Optimizers. Essentially any engineer overdesigning something, but for biology. The logical outgrowth of medicine, treating things like "death of old age", "not having a thousand-point IQ" or "inconvenient requirements for air, water, food, gravity, absence of radiation, etc limit potentially habitable portions of the universe to an infinitesimally small percentage of what's known to exist" as diseases to be cured rather than merely the human condition.
  2. Hedonists. Just want to plug their brains into more entertaining simulated realities and endless (assuming nobody unplugs the holodeck from the outside, none of the automated machinery breaks down and there's a definite end to their entire subfaction in a single generation when they eventually die without offspring since their holographic waifus cannot be impregnated) hedonism.
These are weird little pseudo-religions, not threats. The dearest wish of both subfactions is to leave, either the planet or reality in favor of simulations, after which, you'll never have to deal with them again.

The problem is that the transhumanists ignore the implications of the technology their dreams require for dystopian societal control. Someone turning themselves into a superman or a vegetable in a matrix pod is irreverent, the threat is when the same technologies used to do so allow one percent of the population rule the other ninety-nine with servitization of prosthetic vital organs and ketracel-white monopolies.

And in any case, I really don't see what that's got to do with covid and the shots and quarantine imposed supposedly to beat covid. There's no reason to imagine a complicated conspiracy requiring multiple colossal technological breakthroughs when there's a perfectly simple one staring you in the face.

I am gonna read the article some time, but I am gonna guess from what I have seen that the author is mostly talking about a mix of those 2 cults who are really high on technocrayic tendencies. Where they want a transhumanist society but are keenly aware of of those consequences and so they want to, as you say, use this tech on themselves while making the 99% into serfs with technological chains tying them to their feudal lords.

I was gonna type more but @*THASF* ninja'd me. The article is pretty much pointing towards that 3 group.
 

Bassoe

Well-known member
If nanotransducers could be localized in these regions and selectively energized with wireless power transmission...
And how on earth is an injection to the circulatory system supposed to accomplish this? Even if the hypothetical nanite particles can penetrate the blood-brain barrier, they'll do so at random locations in the brain so pulsing an electrical charge through one to trigger surrounding neurons will have random effects. That's not mind control, it's a fancy way of inducing seizures. And that's not even getting into the issues of powering the particles or remote-controlling them to activate at specific times. They're too small for long-lasting batteries and wireless broadcasting of control signals or power wouldn't be much use for something with a literally microscopic antenna embedded in a comparatively colossal lump of water made semisolid by impurities of carbon and trace elements.

Point is, I know brain-computer hijacking is possible even if only on a rudimentary scale and the same person who invented the technology proposed using it on humans to enforce the will of society's leadership, but it takes fairly major and recognizable surgery.
 

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