Why did you post a map of asia? this is suppose to be an alternative map thread.
Why did you post a map of asia? this is suppose to be an alternative map thread.
No, now that I think about it, greece has been renamed GreggeIt is alternate history, Bulgaria and Romania switched places!
No, now that I think about it, greece has been renamed Gregge
This was a proposed Greater Greece Map at the Congress of Berlin showcasing Greece's territorial claims prior to the Treaty of Berlin. Honestly had Greece better managed its independence and not barely avoiding total collapse due to infighting and political incompetence (they had a civil war in the middle of their war for independence against the Ottomans), they probably could have gained a lot more territory.
Its more of an ethnographic map showing potential theoretical claims. The red dashed line pattern for example indicates the various Turkish settlements presents in the Balkans.It looks like the Bulgarians and Serbians got screwed over pretty badly
I don't think Albania would ever be that powerful considering that Serbia existed as a semi-independent tributary state from 1817. Though Albania on the other hand was a pretty loyal Ottoman province which only really declared independence once it became clear that the Ottomans were poised to firmly lose control over the Balkans.did Austria and Albania partition Serbia between themselves?
It is alternate history, Bulgaria and Romania switched places!
This was a proposed Greater Greece Map at the Congress of Berlin showcasing Greece's territorial claims prior to the Treaty of Berlin. Honestly had Greece better managed its independence and not barely avoiding total collapse due to infighting and political incompetence (they had a civil war in the middle of their war for independence against the Ottomans), they probably could have gained a lot more territory.
Had the Phanariotes been more successful, they could have provoked a Russo-Ottoman War over the issue of the Danubian Principalities, and this could have boosted Greece's standing at the peace table with Russia now intervening on their side. Greece which has much more territory and is thus less poorer will have a much better head start on all its neighbors in the Balkans and probably could claim much more land in the fight against the Ottomans in future wars. Even in otl they had some basis for claiming these territories in Eastern Rumelia due to the large greek population (majority if not a large plurality) in places like Philippopolis (Plovdiv) and other urban centers. There's also the culture influence Greece would have thanks to the Patriarchate of Constantinople over the old Rumelia Eyalet in the balkans.
I'm actually thinking of exploring something like this in my alternate history timeline: Imperator Francorum
Please, tell me more? This is something I've always wanted to incorporate into one of my own timelines. One thing I remember is that the Bulgarian national revival came in the late 1870s, and before there more emphasis on Byzantine history and connections due to the Greek influence in the Orthodox Church.
Yeah I plan on incorporating this into some of my own tl as well. Greece with these sorts of borders would definitely be the hegemon of the Balkans, and would probably be capable enough to gain the Anatolian coastline on the Eastern side of the Hellispont.This is something I've always wanted to incorporate into one of my own timelines. One thing I remember is that the Bulgarian national revival came in the late 1870s
Well yes and no. As @WolfBear said the real Bulgarian revival started in the late 18th century. Though during that era the Bulgarian language almost went extinct, with it largely being preserved thanks to the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.One thing I remember is that the Bulgarian national revival came in the late 1870s
Yeah this part is true thanks to the Rumelia Eyalet being under the influence of the Patriarchate of Constantinople.before there more emphasis on Byzantine history and connections due to the Greek influence in the Orthodox Church.
Yeah I plan on incorporating this into some of my own tl as well. Greece with these sorts of borders would definitely be the hegemon of the Balkans, and would probably be capable enough to gain the Anatolian coastline on the Eastern side of the Hellispont.
As for Constantinople, I'd say that there would probably be an international zone, mediated by the other Great Powers which would eventually probably fall into Greek influence and then annexation later down the line.
Well yes and no. As @WolfBear said the real Bulgarian revival started in the late 18th century. Though during that era the Bulgarian language almost went extinct, with it largely being preserved thanks to the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.
Yeah this part is true thanks to the Rumelia Eyalet being under the influence of the Patriarchate of Constantinople.
Well yes and no. As @WolfBear said the real Bulgarian revival started in the late 18th century. Though during that era the Bulgarian language almost went extinct, with it largely being preserved thanks to the Bulgarian Orthodox Church.