I posted earlier that it was probably leaked by establishment Republicans early in order to try and sabotage it.
Would not surprise me. Increasingly it looks like the Status Quo will only be changed when people start hanging politicians from lampposts.I posted earlier that it was probably leaked by establishment Republicans early in order to try and sabotage it.
The GOP is already controlled opposition; anyone who thinks otherwise is just buying into the tribalistic mindset of "us versus them" the establishment is trying to sell them. There is no "us"; just a bunch of people with wildly different expectations and desires looking to use everyone else as stepping stones on their way to their ideal society, while the rest just want to be left alone.Oh no, no, @Bacle doesn't want the GOP to become conservative or anything like that. He wants it to become Demorats Lite, controlled opposition, a party that actively courts minorities and lgbt groups. Can't even crawl back to the actual democrats, nah, he gotta act like a colonizer.
The GOP is already controlled opposition; anyone who thinks otherwise is just buying into the tribalistic mindset of "us versus them" the establishment is trying to sell them. There is no "us"; just a bunch of people with wildly different expectations and desires looking to use everyone else as stepping stones on their way to their ideal society, while the rest just want to be left alone.
... and religious liberty, and school choice, and non-adventurism, and civil rights, and free speech, and we can go on and on. At some point the word 'only' doesn't work.Libertarians are useless and only care about corporate profits, drugs, guns, gay sex and immigration.
Your two problems are thinking that the republicans are controlled any more than the democrats, or that there even is a controller (there never is), and that change actually comes from politics. Politics can stop change, but rarely causes it on purpose. The only thing that really matters in politics is the tax rate, war, and the supreme court. That's all they really have power on and are likely to do.The GOP is already controlled opposition; anyone who thinks otherwise is just buying into the tribalistic mindset of "us versus them" the establishment is trying to sell them. There is no "us"; just a bunch of people with wildly different expectations and desires looking to use everyone else as stepping stones on their way to their ideal society, while the rest just want to be left alone.
The Republicans had four years to convince me they were worth a damn; they failed. They are dead to me now, as well as everyone who still supports them.
They tend to be more freedom from religion types and don’t recognize the social value of religion and some even hate the fact that America is Christian nation.and religious liberty
Normal Republican position.and school choice
Also America First position.non-adventurism
I’m sorry what? They have the power to and have enacted mass immigration to the United States, as just one example. What you’ve listed are just the top priorities of the terrible establishment Republicans. The goal is to make it so that those aren’t the only things that they try to do when they have power lol. That’s not all that matters in politics. That’s all that Neocons want out of politics. Democrats don’t want that and they actually use government to change the country, and America First seeks to do the same.The only thing that really matters in politics is the tax rate, war, and the supreme court. That's all they really have power on and are likely to do.
Yes, and? It's also a mainstream libertarian thing. The person I'm arguing against said there's few things we care about. I listed more.Normal Republican position.
The problem is that almost all government solutions to this violate free speech themselves, and will then be exploited by the side in power against the side already being persecuted. The solution is decentralization, which is already happening and speeding up because of the restrictions.Libertarians who don’t want to punish and curtail the current private industry of destroying free speech and really all that great on the issue of free speech.
Basically I'm saying politics is downstream of culture. Politics isn't the cause of most things, it's the end result after a lot of work. It's cultural power that moves it. I just listed the exceptions.I’m sorry what?
Except when politics are used to import like a hundred million people with different culture over sixty years it’s probably gonna change the culture. It’s not downstream, it’s circular, and policies especially like that are going to change things. When politics can be used to draft the education legislature that indoctrinates your children to certain world view, it changes your culture. Culture can change politics and politics can change culture, and both can do a lot more than establishment Republican bullshit.Basically I'm saying politics is downstream of culture. Politics isn't the cause of most things, it's the end result after a lot of work. It's cultural power that moves it. I just listed the exceptions.
Probably the right idea. Whether an America First caucus is a good idea or not, it's poisoned by being Majorie Taylor Greene's idea, who believes in Jewish Space Lasers.
No. It's called setting standards, and sticking to them regardless of who it is. It's a powerful position to be in. It doesn't matter what they say about her. What matters is what she does. And what she has does is enough to disqualify her.
If your sworn opposition told you to not shove a fork into an electrical outlet, would you then think doing so is a good idea? If I then concurred, and pointed out the reasons why that would be a really stupid and dangerous thing to do, would that then make me one of them in your eyes?
I think this both misunderstands what controlled opposition would entail, and what the establishment is selling.
It's not that the Republicans are being controlled; they are the controllers, alongside the Democrats. We're the ones being controlled, in as much as a loose coalition of power-hungry sociopaths can control a nation's people. When I say "controlled opposition" I'm pointing out that the Republicans are part of the same establishment as the Democrats; they just pretend to be on opposing sides so that people will get invested in one or the other, and not realize that they have to oppose both if they want things to actually improve.Your two problems are thinking that the republicans are controlled any more than the democrats, or that there even is a controller (there never is), and that change actually comes from politics. Politics can stop change, but rarely causes it on purpose. The only thing that really matters in politics is the tax rate, war, and the supreme court. That's all they really have power on and are likely to do.
I am Fallout-man101 and I endorse this message.I will once again point out that anybody who is complaining about 'controlled opposition' or the like who, if an American Citizen and registered Republican, isn't currently or planning on becoming a Precinct Committeeman is simply blowing smoke and is 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'.
You want things to change? You believe the GOP is useless? Then get in the damn arena and actually do something about it, rather than flap your gums on the internet.
I will once again point out that anybody who is complaining about 'controlled opposition' or the like who, if an American Citizen and registered Republican, isn't currently or planning on becoming a Precinct Committeeman is simply blowing smoke and is 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'.
You want things to change? You believe the GOP is useless? Then get in the damn arena and actually do something about it, rather than flap your gums on the internet.
"You don't have the right to complain unless you join the GOPe and try and fix it" my, how...indifferent to the 1A.
Granted, I agree whole heartedly more people should join other right wing parties instead of complaining about the GOPe. They should organize and join those of us who are actually trying to replace the GOP with a proper right wing party.
FTFY.
Granted, I agree whole heartedly more people should join other right wing parties instead of complaining about the GOPe. They should organize and join those of us who are actually trying to replace the GOP with a proper right wing party.
I'm an unemployed autistic man in his mid-thirties; I've got no charisma, no experience, and, more importantly, no money or connections. "Flapping my gums" is all I've got. Besides; I'm not a registered Republican, and I never will be.I will once again point out that anybody who is complaining about 'controlled opposition' or the like who, if an American Citizen and registered Republican, isn't currently or planning on becoming a Precinct Committeeman is simply blowing smoke and is 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'.
You want things to change? You believe the GOP is useless? Then get in the damn arena and actually do something about it, rather than flap your gums on the internet.