We all knew that Biden was going to ensure that nothing remains which Trump could claim credit for, so this isn't surprising. Neither is him essentially ending any hope that social media companies might be held to task for their unwritten ideological censorship policies.
One hopes...personally, I just see a lot of talk.The later is going to cause pressure to build up into a second populist revolt thats bigger madder and stronger then the last one.
So the war crimes that the Palestinians commit don't particularly matter to you here?
The fact you immediately resort to Whataboutism should say a lot about Israel's actions, beyond the fact you've equated Humanitarian aid with billions in Military funding.
The fact you immediately resort to Whataboutism should say a lot about Israel's actions, beyond the fact you've equated Humanitarian aid with billions in Military funding.
No, I'm not resorting to Whataboutism. I'm honestly trying to see where you stand.
Do you or do you not care that the explicitly stated goal of the Palestinian side of the conflict is to destroy Israel as a nation and wipe its people out?
Palestinians have rejected many, many offers that would have given them a their own state and resorted to violence every time. The fact that they might state they'd accept a truce on pre-1967 borders means jack, because they rejected more than that when it was offered to them. In fact, that rejection is how Hamas came to power, because they had that territory and Hamas pissed it away in their coup.Except that is exactly Whataboutism; rather than respond to the charges at hand, you immediately resort to citing outside things to achieve a moral equivalency. This is exactly how the term came about and even in that exact context, in which the USSR during the Cold War would bring up actions or policies by the United States to deflect specific criticisms of itself. That you attempt this between Hamas and the State of Israel really says a lot about the legitimacy and morality of said State, no?
To answer your specific question, I would encourage you to read up on the situation because you seem seriously misinformed about the situation. The Palestinians at large have, for quite sometime, recognized the two state solution including even Yasser Arafat as far as back as the 1970s. Even Hamas, whom the current fighting is centered around, has repeatedly stated it would accept a truce upon Pre-1967 borders. There's nothing about genocide or destroying the State of Israel in that, at all. If you want my opinion, the restoration of Pre-Six Day War borders, the right of return for Palestinian refugees and reparations is a solid deal, recognizing the demographic realities on the ground and the history of the region. Otherwise, I support a One State Solution with the State of Israel ended in favor of non-denominational State of Palestine, in a form of multi-faith/ethnic Republic.
In short, you (whether knowingly or not; and I'm not sure which is worse) support the ethnic cleansing of every Jew in Israel; because that is what would happen if Palestine took over the region. The State of Israel already is multi-faith/ethnic; many Muslims do actually live there in peace. It's the Palestinians who refuse to tolerate the idea of peaceful co-existence.I support a One State Solution with the State of Israel ended in favor of non-denominational State of Palestine, in a form of multi-faith/ethnic Republic.
Palestinians have rejected many, many offers that would have given them a their own state and resorted to violence every time. The fact that they might state they'd accept a truce on pre-1967 borders means jack, because they rejected more than that when it was offered to them. In fact, that rejection is how Hamas came to power, because they had that territory and Hamas pissed it away in their coup.
Ariel Sharon gave them the entire Gaza Strip, free, in 2005, withdrawing all settlers from the 1967 borders and leaving many massive greenhouses that the Palestinians could have used to jumpstart a new agriculture industry (Which the Israelis had built for themselves to jumpstart their own agricultural industry before that). There's numerous pictures you can find of Israeli settlers being dragged out of their homes by Israeli armed forces. Hamas promptly staged a coup of the Palestinian Authority, rose to power, and used their new land as bases to launch more rocket attacks on Israel. Let me repeat, this wasn't the 1967 borders, this was Israel pulling back from those borders and giving the Palestinians more land that that.
Oh yeah, and Palestinians destroyed most of the greenhouses.
As a result it's somewhat difficult to accept claims that all they want is the 1967 borders back, especially when their Covenant specifically says that they will never accept that.
Article 13 of the Hamas Covenant:
"[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility."
In short, you (whether knowingly or not; and I'm not sure which is worse) support the ethnic cleansing of every Jew in Israel; because that is what would happen if Palestine took over the region. The State of Israel already is multi-faith/ethnic; many Muslims do actually live there in peace. It's the Palestinians who refuse to tolerate the idea of peaceful co-existence.
Nearly half of Jewish Israelis agree that Arabs should be expelled or transferred from Israel, and a solid majority (79 percent) maintain that Jews in Israel should be given preferential treatment, according to a Pew Research Center in Israel survey published on Tuesday.
The poll, with 5,601 in-person interviews of Israeli adults, conducted between October 2014 and May 2015, found that Israeli Jews increasingly believe the West Bank settlements help, rather than hurt, Israel’s security – and most (61%) believe Israel was given by God to the Jewish people.
Yes, they have. They were offered 97% of that at Oslo and given it for free in 2005.Except they haven't done that, while Israel has also maintained an economically crippling blockade on Gaza.
What's that have to do with what you quoted? For somebody who screams about whataboutism so quickly you sure are fast to reach for it yourself, especially considering that Hamas took over January 25, 2006 and the explosion was June 9, 2006 so "long before" is only correct if you happen to be named Bizarro.Again, support for Israel seems based on not having any real knowledge on the region. Case in point, episodes such as the Gaza beach explosion where the IDF outright murdered civilians in 2006, long before any Hamas coup occurred.
The Covenant is decades old... but the 1967 borders aren't? Curious how selective that is.Except the Covenant is decades old and Hamas has distanced itself from it, something even Israeli sources have noted has occurred.
I find it very interesting the idea of a multi-ethnic state automatically means genocide in your mind. As for the idea they live in peace, that's utterly baseless:
A Palestinian state will never be multi-ethnic; you'd have to be utterly delusional to think otherwise, considering that they've made that perfectly clear with their actions over the course of generations. For Pete's sake; their children's television programming teaches that all Jews must be killed:I find it very interesting the idea of a multi-ethnic state automatically means genocide in your mind. As for the idea they live in peace, that's utterly baseless:
The big thing people seem to forget about the 1967 border deal... Is that in 1967 the Palestinians rejected the 1967 border deal...
You don't get to come back 40 years after rejecting a deal and go "Okay I will accept that 40 year old deal now.".
Except that is exactly Whataboutism; rather than respond to the charges at hand, you immediately resort to citing outside things to achieve a moral equivalency.
One hopes...personally, I just see a lot of talk.
I'm sure those who need to believe that a particular group of people are responsible for all their problems in life, would find an endless number of excuses to rake the Jews, I mean "Israel", over the coals; they're just too tempting of a target.what Isreal should have done is kick all of the Palastinians out 40 years ago.
Yes they would have caught flack for it at the time but it would insure that they just have one thing people bitch about rather then an open wound for their enemies to fuck them over with over and over again with.
Sure, and that would be something they would have to deal with. But is it as bad as constant rocket attacks?I'm sure those who need to believe that a particular group of people are responsible for all their problems in life, would find an endless number of excuses to rake the Jews, I mean "Israel", over the coals; they're just too tempting of a target.
Of course not; I'm just pointing out that they'd probably still have to deal with much of the world arguing, sometimes violently, that they shouldn't be allowed to exist as a country. Or a people, for that matter.Sure, and that would be something they would have to deal with. But is it as bad as constant rocket attacks?