Fallout Fallout General Thread - War, War Never Changes. Nor do game engines.

Except no.
5.56 is closer to .223 then to regular 5mm.
How do I know? My AR is in 5.56 and can take .223.
5mm is a smaller overall round

then...it is a bad argument for the durability of PA in FO then.
because .223 even with the biggest Bubba load is still weaker then majority 7.62. It does depend on the 7.62 in question.
X39, x51, x54.

Except the argument js how can we take what the games oresentz and make a debatable aspect of how durable something is.
We take known factors

somewhat, but even the most basic of .308 and 7.62x51 NATO weapons the 7.62 is stoll often tines the better round. Just slightly slower

exceot .223 is 5.56 in Milspec.

I get that in FO.
But when trying to compare to modern weapons for effect in understanding somethings true durability.
Not really how it works.

And that doesn't really make a diffrence when you get to rounds that are very similar.
You should play Fallout 1. Or 2.
 
Fallout 76 shows T-51B armor (Without the helmet) can keep a wearer in power armor alive after body slamming a mine, the concussive force of the blast does keep them out of the fight but they did SURVIVE and manage to make a full recovery, keep in mind they were still miles away from any medical facilities so the injuries were not severe enough that he'd die during long distance transit.
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The explosion was actually impressive considering it LITERALLY launched the T-51B in the air a few FEET
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Yet some people apparently think a guy with an AK-47 can mow down hundreds of people in T-51B with a burst of the gun
 
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I mean, we also have power armor joints being week to .45ACP.
The concussion force from that blast would have damaged his limbs as well, and the under layer
So...either the TV show has them weaker or that makes no sense.

Also...that isn't hoe concussion force works. The blast was in the middle of the air from the get go, and then lifted him ip.
How heavy is the knight in armor?

She should also be dead if it can lift him ip
 
I mean, we also have power armor joints being week to .45ACP.
Well yeah it's target the least armored areas meant to allow flexibility, the actual plate armor is Invulnerable not even getting scratched on their paint job.

The concussion force from that blast would have damaged his limbs as well, and the under layer
Not necessarily, Fallout power armor has really good kinetic energy absorption since without any armor modifications they can survive and walk off jumps from the Prydwen which is at least a hundred feet in the air.
So...either the TV show has them weaker or that makes no sense.
The TV show has them target the flexible material in the armor never the actual hard plate. Even then it takes concentrated point blank fire over an unknown period.

We know the NATO/.308 Rounds that was fired in the leg failed to penetrate the plate armor and either bounced off the T-60 flexible joint armor or embedded itself after failing to get through the plate.


Also...that isn't hoe concussion force works. The blast was in the middle of the air from the get go, and then lifted him ip.
He jumped on the mine akin to a grenade the flash was just very bright
How heavy is the knight in armor?
Varies according to sources anywhere from several hundred kilograms to two tons.
She should also be dead if it can lift him ip
She wouldn't because he still absorbed the bulk of the energy and the shrapnel from the position would have all hit his chest so all she would have is left over kinetic energy maybe some minor internal bleeding which could be healed with a Stimpack.
 
Well yeah it's target the least armored areas meant to allow flexibility, the actual plate armor is Invulnerable not even getting scratched on their paint job.
Yes.
Not necessarily, Fallout power armor has really good kinetic energy absorption since without any armor modifications they can survive and walk off jumps from the Prydwen which is at least a hundred feet in the air.
That is about absorption through what equals shocks. Surving falls like that isnt actually all that difficult if you have what equate to shocks in your boots.
The TV show has them target the flexible material in the armor never the actual hard plate. Even then it takes concentrated point blank fire over an unknown period.
A few seconds. Not nearly enough to be more then 20 bullets, MAX. Which wouldn't be enough to penetrate much armor if it was armored at all.
Plus the way the blood was, it didn't even act like the kind if wound that would leave.
We know the NATO/.308 Rounds that was fired in the leg failed to penetrate the plate armor and either bounced off the T-60 flexible joint armor or embedded itself after failing to get through the plate.
When?
He jumped on the mine akin to a grenade the flash was just very bright
Except we see that ti be the concussive blast. The flash was the later part.
Varies according to sources anywhere from several hundred kilograms to two tons.
Well, as Zeno said.
It js apperently man portable
She wouldn't because he still absorbed the bulk of the energy and the shrapnel from the position would have all hit his chest so all she would have is left over kinetic energy maybe some minor internal bleeding which could be healed with a Stimpack.
She would have had much more then that, because the reason a human body works on Frag Grenades is because the shrapnel goes into us. The armor would make the Fragmentation bounce around more and shoot out from under his armor.
Because it would have the room too.

His face would of also been Injured
 
I hate how they use those god awful "Assault rifles" whoever thought it was a good idea to make props of those abominations should be executed for crimes against humanity.
Yeah that bothers me as well, they're technologically advanced as to have power armor, but their firearms are glorified raider-tier?!

In FO1 they basically always have miniguns, or gatling lasers, maybe an RPG sprinkled in.
 
BoS shoulda used laser rifles to draw an even bigger contrast between them and the NCR remnants.

I wonder if it's a VFX issue. You can obviously CGI in laser beams and plasma bursts but maybe they wanted to save money on the other effects of people getting disingrated or melted into goo convincingly. Or maybe they wanted to hold off the actual use of energy weapons to later seasons and stagger out the effects. Audience is already taking in a lot of stuff, so throwing in lasers early game show could be an explanation.
 
I wonder if it's a VFX issue. You can obviously CGI in laser beams and plasma bursts but maybe they wanted to save money on the other effects of people getting disingrated or melted into goo convincingly. Or maybe they wanted to hold off the actual use of energy weapons to later seasons and stagger out the effects.
I mean, most kills w/ energy weapons in the games are just people dropping the same as if they'd been hit with bullets.
Audience is already taking in a lot of stuff, so throwing in lasers early game show could be an explanation.
We do see laser weapons various times in the show, but never see them fired. IMO it's a budget issue, there are various scenes that would be giant budget hogs (LA being nuked, power armour scenes, massive airships etc.) so that's probably why.

Yet some people apparently think a guy with an AK-47 can mow down hundreds of people in T-51B with a burst of the gun
There are always gonna be people like that, I once had to block a guy on Reddit who kept insisting a dude with an M16 could massacre 40k Space Marines in full armour.
 
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I mean, most kills w/ energy weapons in the games are just people dropping the same as if they'd been hit with bullets.

We do see laser weapons various times in the show, but never see them fired. IMO it's a budget issue, there are various scenes that would be giant budget hogs (LA being nuked, power armour scenes, giant airships etc.) so that's probably why.

Yeah it also wouldn't surprise me if they are also holding out to show more bloody mess kills only with energy weapons in later seasons as well considering how colorful and splattery some of the more conventional kills and injuries have been already.
 
I mean, most kills w/ energy weapons in the games are just people dropping the same as if they'd been hit with bullets.
Their crit/high damage kills are cutting people in half (for lasers) and turning them into meat-slime (plasma) though.

Or turning people to ash with pulse weapons/alien guns.
 
Where is it said that it's man portable?
FO3/FNV, which present PA as little more than Combat Armor+, down to having the PA have fingerless gloves?

I mean the FNV mod that's meant to make the PA more like the isometric certainly doesn't have it be some silver bodysuit:

 
FO3/FNV, which present PA as little more than Combat Armor+, down to having the PA have fingerless gloves?

I mean the FNV mod that's meant to make the PA more like the isometric certainly doesn't have it be some silver bodysuit:

FO1-2 let you throw it in your inventory and while very heavy, it's portable, frame, fusion power and all.
 
Somehow multiple BoS members in T-51b got killed in The Glow, despite the only threats present being armed with assault rifles, sniper rifles and the occasional shotgun.

Maybe the robots with supernatural accuracy targeted the joints? It mentions somebody's arm flew off with burning flesh, maybe a plasma hit?
 

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