You are thinking way too early. Think 5 as the earliest, 10 the most likely, and 15 to 20 being the long term>China invades Taiwan either this year or next year
Is Taiwan important enough for World war 3 to happen yes or no
Ok,but my question is it important enough to cause ww3 or is it nothing more then a match starting the powder kegYou are thinking way too early. Think 5 as the earliest, 10 the most likely, and 15 to 20 being the long term>
Everyone here and off knows I keep saying this. The likely hood of China invading Taiwan would be a last-ditch operation to gain national support, to make up for issues going on in their own country.
Though, if you are right I will be heavily involved in that war.
And, I think it will be a nonnuclear war. US and allies defending Taiwan. No invasion of China. It will cause the collapse of China in every possible way and would be the stupidest thing they could ever do.
@S'task We talked about this earlier as well.
If China got to the point that they were invading Taiwan by force it would be worth it based on strategic reasons alone, never mind diplomatic ones.Ok,but my question is it important enough to cause ww3 or is it nothing more then a match starting the powder keg
It would probably degenerate into a limited conflict as the U.S. isn't going to invade the mainland and China doesn't have the capability to destroy the USN, same for nukes really. Neither side wants Taiwan itself destroyed and neither the U.S. not China have reason to truly go nuclear.There doesn't seem to be a reason for China to use nuclear weapons in a Taiwanese Invasion since China likely wouldnt want to invade an irradiated moonscape and Taiwan also has no nuclear weapons to threaten or respond with to escalate the conflict.
Plus I dont think Nuking China to protect Taiwan from conventional invasion is in the US interests in the foreseeable future.
Would be interesting to see who might fall onto whose side in the conflict and to what degree.
Nuking China to protect a cricket from conventional stepping on would be in US interests.Plus I dont think Nuking China to protect Taiwan from conventional invasion is in the US interests in the foreseeable future.
Nuking China to protect a cricket from conventional stepping on would be in US interests.
China invades taiwan either this year or next year
Is Taiwan important enough for World war 3 to happen yes or no
Okay, that is wrong, because the military will step in and go against the people in charge is Hawaii was invaded, much less taiwan.No, it’s not worth WWIII. There are a lot of nations that China could invade or harass that wouldn’t be worth WWIII, which puts us into a hard situation. Where do we draw the line?
In all likelihood though, by the time China starts that sort of thing, the regime in charge of America wouldn’t lift a finger to stop China from invading Hawaii much less Taiwan.
Exactly. It would be a last act gamble they have to takeThe question is Taiwan worth WWIII and the correct answer morally is 'no' because nothing is worth bringing us towards nuclear war. The problem is though, is that if we are at the point where China is taking Taiwan by force everything is probably going to hell, with China that desperate whos to say Vietnam or Mongolia won't be next on the menu?
to add on to this, technically, Taiwan is a province in rebellion, like the CSA was, and China has the right on paper to invade and restore governmental authority anytime.I disagree -- there's a huge difference between invading a sovereign nation, and "invading" a rogue province which itself still officially calls itself a province of China, and maintains a pretense of being the rightful government of all China.
Taiwan may be de facto a separate nation, but they themselves refuse to act as one even on paper.
I disagree -- there's a huge difference between invading a sovereign nation, and "invading" a rogue province which itself still officially calls itself a province of China, and maintains a pretense of being the rightful government of all China.
Taiwan may be de facto a separate nation, but they themselves refuse to act as one even on paper.
Except, then foreign nations like the US, South korea, and Japan consider Taiwan to be a separate nation. In their eyes it is invasion of a foreign nation, and no way gives China the right to do itto add on to this, technically, Taiwan is a province in rebellion, like the CSA was, and China has the right on paper to invade and restore governmental authority anytime.
To be fair technically the mainland is in Rebellion to the Republic of China aka Taiwan as wellto add on to this, technically, Taiwan is a province in rebellion, like the CSA was, and China has the right on paper to invade and restore governmental authority anytime.
That's unfair, as everybody knows that Taiwan is in a position where it couldn't declare itself independent if it wanted to over PRC threats.I disagree -- there's a huge difference between invading a sovereign nation, and "invading" a rogue province which itself still officially calls itself a province of China, and maintains a pretense of being the rightful government of all China.
Taiwan may be de facto a separate nation, but they themselves refuse to act as one even on paper.
That's a silly assertion as only a fool would make Taiwan out to be a great power, and yet they aren't a banana republic either or a Central African dictatorship either with no use, they have an economy larger than Poland and Turkey and still that doesn't change the fact that by act of congress the U.S. is obligated to it's defense regardless.It's really not a *good* country even by strictly utilitarian standards, and the only reason the U.S. or anyone else gives it the time of day is to spite Communist China. So no, it's really not worth nuclear war; it's not a true ally, but a semi-useful pawn.