Yet if they leave,germans would start anoter world war.And then USA would must pay more.Israel has the benefit of being in an oil rich region. Europe has no actual value to the US strategically.
Yet if they leave,germans would start anoter world war.And then USA would must pay more.Israel has the benefit of being in an oil rich region. Europe has no actual value to the US strategically.
Yet if they leave,germans would start anoter world war.And then USA would must pay more.
You could.We could just tell Europe to sort out there own mess and stay out of it.
And then germans would attack you after conqering Europe.Sorry,but after Bismarck left office,united Germany ALWAYS wonted MOAR.We could just tell Europe to sort out there own mess and stay out of it.
I thought about arguing against this but then I realized it was posted by ATP.And then germans would attack you after conqering Europe.Sorry,but after Bismarck left office,united Germany ALWAYS wonted MOAR.
But this time you would not have poles to use as cannon fodder,becouse germans would kill us all.
And then germans would attack you after conqering Europe.Sorry,but after Bismarck left office,united Germany ALWAYS wonted MOAR.
But this time you would not have poles to use as cannon fodder,becouse germans would kill us all.
Who started WW1,poles or germans ? who started WW2 and genocide,poles or germans? in which NATO country USA keep bigger forces to keep them in line,Poland or Germany?I thought about arguing against this but then I realized it was posted by ATP.
USA public though the same after WW1.Result - WW2 started by germans.WW2 ended awhile ago dude, Just start speaking German. It sounds mean but honestly why should my tax dollars have to foot the bill for your own paranoia?
Neither.Who started WW1,poles or germans ?
Germans gave cheque blance to A-H,too.Without that,Austria would not dare face Russia.Neither.
It was France by its cheque blanche to Russia.
[SHRUGS] Russia was backing a terrorist state - A-H was in the right.Germans gave cheque blance to A-H,too.Without that,Austria would not dare face Russia.
If being RIGHT mean anything,there would be no Partition of Poland.[SHRUGS] Russia was backing a terrorist state - A-H was in the right.
The only thing just about everyone can agree on about the start off WWI is the spark which set off the powder keg: the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.[SHRUGS] Russia was backing a terrorist state - A-H was in the right.
The only thing just about everyone can agree on about the start off WWI is the spark which set off the powder keg: the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Afterwards? The Serbians were ready to agree to all but one of the Austro-Hungarian demands and the Austro-Hubgarians were ready to accept that reply and consider the matter resolved.
That did not happen because the peanut gallery decided to butt in and say "We won't accept that outcome."
"What we need is a short, victorious war."Everyone thought it would be a quick easy war that they could win.
Instead they got 4 years, 3 months, and 15 days of hell."What we need is a short, victorious war."
And germans even had plan for it,which would worked,if they do not send part of their forces to East Prussia.As if there was anything worth holding."What we need is a short, victorious war."
The only thing just about everyone can agree on about the start off WWI is the spark which set off the powder keg: the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Afterwards? The Serbians were ready to agree to all but one of the Austro-Hungarian demands and the Austro-Hubgarians were ready to accept that reply and consider the matter resolved.
That did not happen because the peanut gallery decided to butt in and say "We won't accept that outcome."
They didn't take into account two things: the network of alliances formed (A declares war on B, but C has to defend B because of a mutual alliance so C declares war on A, but A has a similar pact with D, so D declares war on C and B, et cetera) and, the most important one; technology.
Technology outpaced tactics and doctrine. I mean, for fuck's sake, you had men marching Napoleonic Wars-style into machine gun fire (Battle of the Somme), horse cavalry versus trenches, machine guns, and artillery...
A fictional yet parallel example that still applies is from Tanya the Evil, in its alternate WW1/pseudo-WW2 -- the Duchy of Dachia, which is basically Bulgaria and a few other states in our timeline, invade the Empire from the south.
Except for radios, they acted exactly like how an army would in the Napoleonic Wars would've, and they all got massacred. By one Imperial unit.
Granted it was flying special forces, but they still would've been wiped out by a few modern, Imperial regiments with artillery and tanks.
But yeah, it was a complete clusterfuck on everyone's end, and it even helped put the Sick Man of Europe out of its misery.
Right, so in WWI, Germany played the role of an imperial power butting heads with other imperial powers, hoping to get a bigger piece of the pie and reaping only sorrow.in case of WW1,germansshare quilty with Russia,England,A-H and France.
In case of WW2 - only with soviets.
1.Agree,but-they could win and lost thanks to their own stupidityRight, so in WWI, Germany played the role of an imperial power butting heads with other imperial powers, hoping to get a bigger piece of the pie and reaping only sorrow.
In WWII, it was more of a fanatical revanchism, spurred by socioeconomic catastrophe and kept afloat by death cult propaganda and a totalitarian/police state.
Now, Germany appears to have been convinced that the path to power in the 21st century is to play the peaceful political/economic game. Sign up with the EU, try to be the biggest fish in the Euro-pond, and try to make the pond bigger (grow the EU). As long as the US Navy keeps oceanic trade open, and as long as NATO is a reliable safeguard for its European members, it seems like a plan worth sticking to.
If anything, I'd think that the world wars are examples of Germany being TOO committed to a path it thought would lead to greatness; I'm not sure why you expect it to bail on the current scheme.
Poland sanctioned worse than Russia? What on earth are you talking about?Now,they try to turn EU into fourth Reich,central state ruled from Berlin.And made more sanctions on Poland then on Moscov.
Would they succed? maybe.
But,they would try to made german empire again.Only they are smart enough to undarstandt,that war do not work.