I may have missed it but I don't think I've seen anyone claiming that the people arrested are innocent or a Saint. More like a plant or a patsy.
The fact is that people being quick to jump to conclusions regarding the FBI often overlook the fact that by immediately assuming it's a plant or patsy via kneejerk reacting often come across as getting defensive over it compared people who just ignore the situation entirely.
Who really cares that a bunch of Neo-Nazis get arrested? They have no connections to us and we don't identify with them on any level to care. Yes, Liberals will try to liken them to us and perhaps 'yes' be it real or fabricated they will use this as a pretext to liken us as all being terrorist by association news at 11.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. We don't need to apologize for anything, nor do we need to jump to conclusions regarding the FBI because we have no proof one way or the other and we look like we are trying to lessen the blame that rightly lay with these individuals because FBI goading or no, idiots or geniuses these guys were planning to attack the electric grid that is an established fact so let's condemn them for what we know they did.
This isn't to say
@Captain X or others are meaning to do as a I know personally neither he nor anyone else is to my knowledge a neo-nazi, I am merely stating his and others views towards gov agencies like the ATF and FBI have made him rightly and perhaps overly paranoid.
For example to me his response as blunt as it is comes across as being almost immediately dismissive and deflectory. After all why immediately assume a set up? Why immediately assume that somehow every extreme hate group in the U.S. is somehow on their payroll?
It comes across as trying to shift any and all culpability for any of these groups actions especially in threads like this.
Example: "What three Klan members in Mississippi lynch a black dude?!!! *Sniff*
The smell of glowie is strong here..."
Why does it smell like glowie? Because we must immediately assume that there couldn't be three white dudes that bigoted? That the omniscient FBI had to have known or had these people on payroll and allowed it to happen for political reasons? Ect.
Again, not insinuating anything here just making sure people realize this jumping to these conclusions with little evidence comes across as cope when it shoudn't.