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Have you seen the loss numbers for Bakhmut and Avdivka?You people are like a living version of that meme where the third place person is popping bottles and biting their medal even though they lost lmao
Have you seen the loss numbers for Bakhmut and Avdivka?You people are like a living version of that meme where the third place person is popping bottles and biting their medal even though they lost lmao
Have you seen the loss numbers for Bakhmut and Avdivka?
One side's numbers are real and the other's is propaganda. It would be silly to assume they're all lying, right?whose numbers?
One side's numbers are real and the other's is propaganda. It would be silly to assume they're all lying, right?
Every time Ukraine takes another loss,they twist and turn, and this time they're even trying to spin it as a loss for Russia lmao
The numbers from visually-confirmed destruction/abandonment through open source intelligence.whose numbers?
osint..lolThe numbers from visually-confirmed destruction/abandonment through open source intelligence.
You know, the numbers that come from neither government?
'lol' why?osint..lol
Because OSINT is the fanfic of intelligence. a tiny bit is very good, but most is just wish fulfillment'lol' why?
Because you don't like the results that they produce?
Read the mediazona methodology. Then come back to me what that 43k actually means and how is that related to reality. Then we can see if its a honest mistake, copium overdose, or poorly thought out propaganda what you are spouting.Because OSINT is the fanfic of intelligence. a tiny bit is very good, but most is just wish fulfillment
There are osint sources that also support the other side. Will you acknowledge them as legit? How about the mediazona casualty figures, which shows 43,000 russian dead as of feb 2. Will you acknowledge those as legit? Or is that BS?
Yup, mediazona is totally a source of actual death tool, even though mediazona itself denies that.These numbers do not represent the actual death toll since we can only review publicly available reports including social media posts by relatives, reports in local media, and statements by the local authorities.
Read the mediazona methodology. Then come back to me what that 43k actually means and how is that related to reality. Then we can see if its a honest mistake, copium overdose, or poorly thought out propaganda what you are spouting.
There's a reason why no one on pro-Ukrainian side considers mediazona a good estimate for total losses. We can read...
And we also can memorize.
Unlike you, who has been schooled by yours truly on this mistake once, but you forgot already:
Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion
They are simply lobbing shells and then advancing over the rubble. 😂🤣😂www.the-sietch.com
Yup, mediazona is totally a source of actual death tool, even though mediazona itself denies that.
Considering those issues with reading and remembering, i recommend everyone who still thinks mediazona is a valid argument for low Russian casualties looks for a good retirement home, because you need it.
I'm going to do so much more than not accept your sources. I'm pointing out that your sources are themselves admitting to not even being an attempt at a good estimate of Russian losses, and are saying that on their own site, and explain why they aren't a good estimate for that... yet you stubbornly try to insist that they are wrong about not being a good source.See? You wont accept my sources, and i wont accept yours. Lets discuss events then.
(p.s...i was correct about basic russian tactics then, and i am correct now. your ideas of human wave assaults are ridiculous)
These are the UK MoD numbers for comparison with others.
Because the majority are Little Russians (ethnic minorities), criminals and mercenary armies. None of the Great Russians(Muscovites and St. Petersburg the population majority whose opinions can affect Moscow) have suffered yet. Putin has been careful not to touch that central powerbaseGood God, why is Russia still in Ukraine? These losses are unsustainable and unacceptable. Even if they "win" in the long run, there won't be a Russian Military left by then.
Putin is bleeding his country dry for his own ego.
It's about the fact that they are burning up the Ukrainians as well is why they keep going.Like with Bakhmut, the Russians, through sheer willingness to burn up manpower and steel, have won a pyrhhic victory.
How many more victories like this will be necessary for Ukraine to win the war?
I wouldn't say those numbers are 100 percent accurate. With vast majority being wounds one can return from with detah toll being under 100k.Good God, why is Russia still in Ukraine? These losses are unsustainable and unacceptable. Even if they "win" in the long run, there won't be a Russian Military left by then.
Putin is bleeding his country dry for his own ego.
Also, the average Russian seems to be for it(they just don't want to be in the frontlines). Amusingly enough, this is one of those times an authoritarian government does something that its popular(another recent example is Burma expelling the Rohingya).Because the majority are Little Russians (ethnic minorities), criminals and mercenary armies. None of the Great Russians(Muscovites and St. Petersburg the population majority whose opinions can affect Moscow) have suffered yet. Putin has been careful not to touch that central powerbase
One side is conscripting old men and cripples while sending women to the tenches. It's not Russia.Good God, why is Russia still in Ukraine? These losses are unsustainable and unacceptable. Even if they "win" in the long run, there won't be a Russian Military left by then.
Putin is bleeding his country dry for his own ego.
One side is fighting for its lifeOne side is conscripting old men and cripples while sending women to the tenches. It's not Russia.
Abd losing, which was his point.One side is fighting for its life
A just cause doesn't magically let you regenerate combat losses forever.One side is fighting for its life