Lol how?Do your research on the guy.
Assumning they are false flag buys into the left narrative to keep us down.....
Lol how?Do your research on the guy.
Assumning they are false flag buys into the left narrative to keep us down.....
Because they're usually not false flag incidents.Lol how?
Because they're usually not false flag incidents.
The powers-that-be usually have better things to do and bigger fish to fry than to stage an incident when and where they want one to occur. They don't even need to because some random idiot will almost assuredly cause a scene near the desired time and place and to the desired effect without the powers-that-be even needing to lift a finger.
The Chad "Allowed to Happen" is a day ending in "-y" in the US. There is some idiot in the US doing something dumb enough at this very moment that will be mentioned by a news station (local, if not national) before midnight if it's not already being reported on by someone on scene providing a live newsfeed.The virgin false flag: Feds put in risk, needs big network to be pulled off, anyone could talk
The Chad "Allowed to Happen": Just let some moron boomer unsurpervised, divert resources to more "pressing" threats, when it happen you can just claim you were overwhelmed, much fewer possible leaks, harder to prove malice
It makes us look needlessly paranoid for no real reason beyond giving into the desire to be so.Lol how?
This, in so many ways.Assumptions can make an a$$ out of both you and me after all.
Yeah. But this assumes I give a fuck what the lefties think about me.It makes us look needlessly paranoid for no real reason beyond giving into the desire to be so.
The healthy human mind doesn't automatically assume or speak out loud either 'conspiracy' or 'it's just shadows' immediately in every situation, but interprets information as available using logic to ascertain truth from fiction.
Only a fool would 100% trust a single source for information and given that in this case there is literally no real evidence either way or many sources yet, just assuming it's a conspiracy like a known fact right off the bat is silly and reflects overly negative when we should wait for more varied information on the issue.
Assumptions can make an a$$ out of both you and me after all.
If the shoe fits ...How's it hurt us? They already think we're conspiracy theorist Nazis.
oh, I see you used the "if you don't want ____ then stop doing things that make them think that" line.If the sho
More seriously: if you don't want to be viewed as a conspiracy theorist Nazi take a step back and ask yourself why you're considered one and stop doing the things which lead to that impression.
Given how the Left paints most of the Right as such, often for terrible things like wanting a secure border and voting system, or believing life starts in the womb, I will ask; why should we care if soyboys and SJWs inaccurately insult us as 'conspiracy theory Nazis'?If the shoe fits ...
More seriously: if you don't want to be viewed as a conspiracy theorist Nazi take a step back and ask yourself why you're considered one and stop doing the things which lead to that impression.
So you want me to stop thinking the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot movie was terrible? Because I've been called a "conspiracy theorist Nazi" for thinking that it sucks.If the shoe fits ...
More seriously: if you don't want to be viewed as a conspiracy theorist Nazi take a step back and ask yourself why you're considered one and stop doing the things which lead to that impression.
If the shoe fits ...
More seriously: if you don't want to be viewed as a conspiracy theorist Nazi take a step back and ask yourself why you're considered one and stop doing the things which lead to that impression.
@Rocinante, @Bacle, @Terthna, and @LordsFire ... I think you're conflating the far-left radicals who think of anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything is the enemy with the majority of the actual left.
You know, the ones who aren't batshit crazy and would be willing to sit down with you and have a discussion resulting in a compromise neither side is truly happy with but both sides can live with.
Who the the heck says anything about the left? I am talking about swing voters who don't give a shit either way until making up their mind last minute.Yeah. But this assumes I give a fuck what the lefties think about me.
How's it hurt us? They already think we're conspiracy theorist Nazis.
Isn't going to help us in the long haul, in fact it's worse, because it's showing for all the world that the left is getting under our skin when it shouldn't be an issue.You wanna insinuate I'm a conspiracy theorist Nazi? Okay. I'm a conspiracy theorist Nazi. What now?
Says the person who's unironically pushing the rhetoric of said far-left radicals. Here's a hint; if you're seriously comparing people to Nazis, and it's not because they're trying to argue that we need to exterminate the Jews? You're not one of the sane ones.@Rocinante, @Bacle, @Terthna, and @LordsFire ... I think you're conflating the far-left radicals who think of anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything is the enemy with the majority of the actual left.
You know, the ones who aren't batshit crazy and would be willing to sit down with you and have a discussion resulting in a compromise neither side is truly happy with but both sides can live with.
I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who knows that some of the people in my neighborhood do not believe my wife and I are US Citizens because we aren't white even though both our respective families have been in the US since before US Civil War.Says the person who's unironically pushing the rhetoric of said far-left radicals. Here's a hint; if you're seriously comparing people to Nazis, and it's not because they're trying to argue that we need to exterminate the Jews? You're not one of the sane ones.
Mind you, this is coming from someone who is a sane leftist.
And if you had said what you said to someone who was actually arguing something similar, you might have had a point. But they weren't, and you didn't; you just asserted that whenever someone is comparing us to a Nazi for doing something, we should stop doing that thing. Completely ignoring the fact that such comparisons are rarely, if ever, valid.I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who knows that some of the people in my neighborhood do not believe my wife and I are US Citizens because we aren't white even though both our respective families have been in the US since before US Civil War.
I am a ex-Dem myself, from a hard D household that's been politically active on the Left for locally, and who was voting straight D till some people helped me take blinders off that I didn't even realize I had; I know what the Dems are like and how they think.@Rocinante, @Bacle, @Terthna, and @LordsFire ... I think you're conflating the far-left radicals who think of anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything is the enemy with the majority of the actual left.
You know, the ones who aren't batshit crazy and would be willing to sit down with you and have a discussion resulting in a compromise neither side is truly happy with but both sides can live with.
Which is bullshit you shouldn't have to put up with, and people who engage in that sort of racial bullshit have poisoned a lot of American politics, on both sides.I'm saying that from the perspective of someone who knows that some of the people in my neighborhood do not believe my wife and I are US Citizens because we aren't white even though both our respective families have been in the US since before US Civil War.
This runs smack into the issue that more and more 'conspiracy theories' get proven legit or semi-true all the time, and a long, sorrid history of false flag ops against the Right (remember the Bundy case that turned out to be like 90% Fed informants from multiple agencies), along with the new DoD focus on 'domestic' issues.*snip*
See, Almost every "conspiracy theory," I have had over the last 20 months or so has ended up being true.Who the the heck says anything about the left? I am talking about swing voters who don't give a shit either way until making up their mind last minute.
(@bintananth is making a separate argument than me branching out from the same post in some respect Nazi's have no bearing on what I am criticizing here.)
It hurts us by making us seem overly paranoid their is a fine line in thinking something might be a cover up or suspicious and immediately always assuming one to be a fact because ninety-nine percent of violence in this world is instigated by individuals not some grand conspiracy.
Part of winning the next election regardless of stopping fraud attempts will be getting swing voters on our side as they ultimately decide the election more than a parties main base who will vote regardless and acting paranoid for little reason or proceeding to say things like.
Isn't going to help us in the long haul, in fact it's worse, because it's showing for all the world that the left is getting under our skin when it shouldn't be an issue.
Your not a Nazi Roci, we both know it and frankly I don't think you have to change a thing about your outlook on life to prove that. But regardless, there is a difference between being 'politically correct' and being 'tactful'
One involves having everybody but you jump you and derive your words or actions in an attempt to demonize you and make you out to be something your not for their sole political benefit and silence those they dislike.
The second involves you yourself picking your battles and not giving unnecessary ammo to the opposition with nothing to show on a whim out of spite and all for the sake of your team.
The two are not related, by going out and proclaiming conspiracy pre-emptively before the bodies have hit the floor you will de-legitimize us by making us seem illogical if it's determined otherwise.
I don't disagree with you for thinking conspiracy, I would be lying if I said the though didn't cross my mind when the situation presented itself.
The difference between you and me however is that other than putting the option out their I would never assume that option as a default nor pronounce it as such, because their was no evidence for or against it.
Two of the people you quoted are ex leftist, one is still a lefty.@Rocinante, @Bacle, @Terthna, and @LordsFire ... I think you're conflating the far-left radicals who think of anyone who doesn't agree with them on everything is the enemy with the majority of the actual left.
You know, the ones who aren't batshit crazy and would be willing to sit down with you and have a discussion resulting in a compromise neither side is truly happy with but both sides can live with.