That's part of the reason why I think the only true "natural right" we are given is the right to fight.
That's a fair way to look at things.
That's part of the reason why I think the only true "natural right" we are given is the right to fight.
You are missing the point.Not to the people who are starving and getting crushed by the regime they are under. Survival is a heck of a motivator for change. At that point you've hit rock bottom. If the next regimen is just as evil if not more so you've lost nothing, "but think about your neighbor..." To heck with my neighbor I'm starving.
It's easy to criticize revolutions A. With Centuries of hindsight and B. The comfort of a climate controlled house. We weren't the ones starving living in filth covered slums. We are getting to that point though especially if California is anything to go by.
You are missing the point.
Yes, revolutions can be justified. Some weren't, some were, some simply snowballed. I am not denying that. My point is, regardless of all the best intentions, revolutions rarely achieve their goal of improving things, and in fact rarely manage to even achieve a positive outcome, let alone actual improvement compared to how things were before.
So it is less that "revolutions are bad" and more that "social engineering is bad". There were plenty of revolutions that didn't end up in mass murder and genocide - because their aim was to restore the old rights and status quo.
How about think about themselves? Because usually, people who raise the revolution end up being the first on the chopping block after it has succeeded. And they fail to fulfill their goals anyway - all good things had been built gradually.And my point is do you really think the people who are suffering in the moment?
No they are thinking"I'm going to improve my standing or take down as many with me as possible."
Your trying to appeal to "think about your neighbor." While their mentality is "to heck with my neighbor I'm starving. Worst case scenario everyone else starves with me."
How about think about themselves? Because usually, people who raise the revolution end up being the first on the chopping block after it has succeeded. And they fail to fulfill their goals anyway - all good things had been built gradually.
But of course, people are dumb, panicky animals, hence why revolutions happen - and everything connected to them.
Debatable. People who participate in revolutions often feel like they have nothing left to lose (and even that is not a hard rule), but you will find that the people who start revolutions tend to be just self-serving and power-hungry.And keeping things to the status quo is sure to doom them. It's darned if they do darned if they don't. Might as well go down in a blaze. I think you will find revolutionaries have more in common with school shooters than anyone else.
At the point they are where they are they have nothing left to lose. You may not like it but more often than not it's the truth.
Debatable. People who participate in revolutions often feel like they have nothing left to lose (and even that is not a hard rule), but you will find that the people who start revolutions tend to be just self-serving and power-hungry.
French revolution? Started because of a spat between the King and the Estates.
Paris Commune? Completely unnecessary waste of life which sprung up when socialists smelled French government's weakness following defeat in the Franco-Prussian war.
October revolution? Started by a German agent to knock Russia out of the war. Again completely unnecessary from the point of "helping the people" because all the reforms they had been asking for were already being implemented by the Tsarist government.
Literally all 1918. - 1920. revolutions? Started by Soviet agitators or due to post-war instability as Leftists aimed to establish their tyranny all across the continent.
True. But who encourages that? It is essentially Left creating the problem, and then offering the solution. That is why the Left is always winning.and yet these people would be nothing without the help of the masses. What gets them to jump on board. It's NOT that "they are a bunch of stupid sheep who don't realize how good they have it." there is a weakness either in the system or the society if not both.
The stuff the US has going on right now, it's not because millianals are stupid, it's because the system has encouraged fatherless homes, a weak economy and an utter lack of self-determination and where there is a vacume somthing will come to fill it whether it's a surge of self-determination or a longing for a big daddy governemt.
And while Tsarist government had many problems, the main problem which eventually encouraged the revolution was its essentially socialist economic policy.