You said they could quit at any time.I never said that doing so was legal. I said that it was possible and that you would be penalized if you did.
They face penalties and criminal actions if they go AWOL.
They are in no way free to leave.
You said they could quit at any time.I never said that doing so was legal. I said that it was possible and that you would be penalized if you did.
The law only exists so far as it can be enforced.One is illegal, one is not.
You are as free as you wish to be.You said they could quit at any time.
They face penalties and criminal actions if they go AWOL.
They are in no way free to leave.
Unless you go off the grid, you will be foundThe law only exists so far as it can be enforced.
I mean, by that standard everything is possible except what's directly forbidden by the laws of physics. You can murder, there are just penalties. You can steal, there are just penalties. You can try to overthrow the government, there are just penalties.I never said that doing so was legal. I said that it was possible and that you would be penalized if you did.
The god argument means nothing to me.You are as free as you wish to be.
I am under absolutely no God-enforced obligation to pay my mortgage. If I don't pay it, I will face consequences.
We have free will and not even God, for all his omnipotent power, can take that away from us. The right to say yes/no at any time is the only thing God can not take away from anyone.
The god argument means nothing to me.
Free to leave means you won't have consequences for leaving.
You're free to face consequences for leaving, you aren't free to leave.
Now you, you're using a different definition of free than most people are, and it's dishonest. As @Bear Ribs said, by your logic you're free to murder people. Sure technically you're free to make that decision, but you face consequences for it, you aren't free to do it.
Soldiers are not free to just walk off of they don't like what the army is doing.
"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."I mean, by that standard everything is possible except what's directly forbidden by the laws of physics. You can murder, there are just penalties. You can steal, there are just penalties. You can try to overthrow the government, there are just penalties.
Technically true but it washes out the meaning, there's no point to saying it, everybody already knows you can technically do anything so long as you're willing to get killed trying.
I mean yes we know you can make decisions that have consequences but that's not what someone typically means when they say you're free to do something."Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
If you don't think the reaction is worth it then you don't perform the action. If you do think it's worthwhile, then you do it.
That's what I'm pointing out.
So basically your argument is that the US, Soviet Russia, and Afghanistan are all equally free. It's just that the consequences of, say, practicing your unusual religion are different, specifically US: People give you funny looks, USSR: Sent to Siberian Labor Camp, and Afghanistan: Murder by an enraged mob."Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
If you don't think the reaction is worth it then you don't perform the action. If you do think it's worthwhile, then you do it.
That's what I'm pointing out.
You just keep digging that hole deeper, don't you?"Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
If you don't think the reaction is worth it then you don't perform the action. If you do think it's worthwhile, then you do it.
That's what I'm pointing out.
We know.At this point I’m pretty sure you guys are being trolled.
I disagree that businesses should be able to require you to undergo medical procedures as terms for employment.Of course. Business can do whatever.
My local paper is pissing me off with how it talks about Bidens mandate. Keeps referring to it as a law and that businesses have to follow it.
Ugh...
ApperentlyIs the argument really whether the Navy Seals are at-will employees or not?