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Marduk said:
This has more to do with the internal culture of the elites involved, be they elected, economic or hereditary.
I don't think the likes of King Charles and many other European monarchs would suddenly experience enlightenment and become aggressive defenders of national self interest above all the virtue signalling and grifts they support now alongside the non-royal elites if only they were given the powers of absolute monarchy. More likely, you would get climate lockdowns and fully open borders.
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No, it has to do with the economics. From your article:
www.osw.waw.pl

Ukrainian oligarchs in wartime

Russia’s military invasion has contributed to a major decline in the role of oligarchs in Ukraine. This is largely due to the fact that domestic political rivalry both in the media and in parliament has ceased, which in turn has reduced the role played by those spheres of life in which their...
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Although at present it is difficult to produce exact figures, it seems that Akhmetov has suffered the greatest losses directly resulting from war-related damage. This is largely due to the fact that he is Ukraine's richest person and his companies are mainly located in eastern Ukraine. The Metinvest company, owned by Akhmetov and Vadim Novinsky, has lost important assets – Russians have destroyed the country's second and third largest metallurgical plants, i.e. Azovstal and the Ilyich Iron and Steel Works in Mariupol. Russians continue to shell Ukraine's largest coke and chemical plant in Avdiivka. The DTEK energy company has been slightly less affected, but its power plant near Luhansk was destroyed. Russian troops have seized the power plant in Enerhodar in Zaporizhzhia Oblast; the facility has suspended its operation due to the lack of coal supplies. In addition, the company has lost control of its two wind farms located on the Russian-occupied coast of the Sea of Azov (the Prymorska wind farm and the Botievska wind farm). A significant portion of the electricity grid owned by a DTEK-controlled operator in Donetsk Oblast was destroyed, and the Bilozerska coal mine was closed to avoid putting its staff at risk.

Less is known about the losses suffered by other oligarchs. Kolomoyskiy's refinery in Kremenchuk stopped work due to rocket fire. The Ukrlandfarming agroholding owned by Oleh Bakhmatyuk has been damaged as well – power cuts caused by military activity have led to the death of more than 4 million chickens at Europe's biggest poultry farm in Chornobaivka, which until recently supplied 15% of the eggs consumed in Ukraine. Ukrlandfarming estimates the losses caused by this damage at US$ 50 million.[5]​ Losses were also recorded by agroholdings such as MHP owned by Kosiuk (storage facilities destroyed, production suspended) and Harveast owned by Akhmetov (technology confiscated). It is difficult to assess how much this year's sowing area will fall by (according to estimates 70% of the country's acreage has been sown). Similarly, at this point it is not known how the harvest season will be organised due to the fact that Ukraine has been affected by petrol shortages.

It is even more difficult to estimate the indirect losses suffered by the oligarchs, mainly due to export restrictions. Most of the output generated by industrial facilities owned by Akhmetov, Pinchuk and Zhevago (metallurgical products and iron ore) were exported. The situation is similar for agribusiness moguls including Andriy Verevskyi, Kosiuk and Bakhmatyuk. Ukraine transported around two thirds of its exports by sea. However, at the beginning of the invasion Russia blocked access to Black Sea harbours, while the harbours in the Sea of Azov were seized by Russian troops. At present, attempts are being made to reroute these shipments via EU countries, mainly Poland and Romania. However, this process is complicated due to logistical constraints and it is unlikely that the maritime routes will be replaced in this manner in the coming months. All this equates to huge losses for Ukrainian business. For example, at the end of April 2022, the Kernel agroholding owned by Verevskyi – Ukraine's biggest producer of sunflower oil – announced that its foreign sales decreased by 90%. The price of shares issued by Ferrexpo, a company owned by Zhevago and listed on the London Stock Exchange, has decreased almost threefold since the outbreak of the war, and at present it is around 40% lower than it was before the Russian invasion. A similar situation has been recorded on the Warsaw Stock Exchange – compared to mid-February 2022 the value of the WIG-Ukrain index decreased by around 35%. Although at present it is difficult to predict how all this will affect the financial liquidity of oligarchic businesses, it may be expected that in the coming months these companies will face increasing problems with debt servicing. In March 2022, Kosiuk's MHP reached an agreement with holders of its Eurobonds to postpone the interest payment by 270 days. DTEK, for its part, announced that it is able to service its debt within the next six to nine months. It may be expected that in the long term some companies will be forced to restructure their debt or to declare insolvency.
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In short, they are patriotic because Russian invasion is hurting their bottom line.

Western elites, who are largely transnational, would not act like that.
Marduk said:
Yet it is how it works in many third world countries now... And it's not working well for the subjects.
It may have a lot to do with the... financial systems and economics of the world. Back in the golden days of monarchy, there was hardly a better way to store (nevermind store with interest) a large amount of wealth than owning land, even sitting on a giant pile of gold was iffy for someone not resembling a dragon for obvious reasons.
But now? All these monarchs and dictators know that farming is no longer the core of economy, and they also absolutely can and do own large stock portfolios, or a bank account in Switzerland or Barbados, which doesn't involve dealing with annoying peasants and their demands nor is very likely to get invaded.
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Probably. But the democratic alternative is hardly working well for the First World, seeing how our own governments are doing their level best to destroy the people they are supposed to be representing.
Marduk said:
The competition is in the existence of different political parties, with different agendas, sometimes dramatically so, which the hopefully civically minded citizenry chooses between.

However, both in democracy and monarchy, if the state owns too much property, that is a problem, as that means the subjects are bound to be poor, while the leadership, be it royal family or politicians, will focus on easy and convenient ways to milk that property for money, like resource exports and real estate rent, than try build highly complex to manage and easy to fuck up high value added economic chains, which are what economic and military powers of today are built on.
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That sounds really nice. Problem is that it doesn't exist.

Different political parties with different agendas? I'd really like to know where these live. All major political parties in the West have, ultimately, one agenda: destroy the West. So what exactly is there to choose between? In the US, both Democrats and Republicans did what they could to block and destroy Trump. In France, all political parties not FN came together to block Le Pen from presidency. In Croatia, all major political parties are a collection of Communists, UDBA agents and Chetniks.

All major political parties in the West are Communists. All major media houses are also Communists. The choice said "civically minded citizenry" is making is an illusion, much like a pig choosing between services of two butchers.

So where you make a choice?

Regarding poverty, democracy / republic is a consequence of a strong middle class and relatively equal division of property, not its cause.
 
Democracy worked well for a little while, then the aristocracy solved it. And all democracies became fake democracies.

How aristocracy "solves" democracy:
step 1: Using central banking the rich literally print infinite money. letting them steal from the poor and give to themselves via the mechanism of inflation.
step 2: Using printed money, they buy all "free media". as well as bribe / buy all institutes in society as well. Umbrella corporations become norm.
step 3: Using owned media, they control the narrative via censorship and nonstop propaganda pretending to be news.
step 4: give women the vote because "muh human rights".
step 5: get women to vote for retarded stuff that destroys society.

result: democracy/republicanism doesn't work anymore.
Modifications to the system would be necessary if democracy is to ever be attempted again.

This is not impossible mind you.
Make sure to use a constitutional republic that explicitly requires something like 90% majority to change "sacred tenants". rules like:
> no women voting
> no fiat money
> no fractional reserve
> must allow citizens to immediately recall all elected positions
> must allow citizens to vote to directly repeal any law / bill passed. all it takes is a 30% voting to repeal a law to actually repeal it
> corporations are not people
> no bailouts, ever
> crack down hard on corporations who censor political opponents

maybe a few others.

It is doable, but would have to be in a successor state.
western civilization is already dead.
but the lessons we learned from it were valuable.
 
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Spartan303 said:
Second link. Don't be that guy. Don't impregnate a THOT (or THOY). He took care of her kids from other men, yet she killed his. That's just stone cold. Sadly, everything about this guy screamed he was a weak. The crying and pleading. Dude, if you're doing that its already over. such things repulse women and will only ensure she destroys your genetic legacy. I feel bad for him. No one should suffer like that. But my feeling bad for him is muted by the fact he clearly choose the wrong kind of woman. That sounds cold, but that's just life.
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Not enough young boys are taught about the actual nature of females. The result is stuff like this.

They shouldn't be taught to hate females mind you. Just understand them.

mrttao said:
Emotionally
I feel sympathy towards the poor guy and the poor innocent baby.
I feel utter disgust and loathing towards the woman.
But... rationality has to prevail here over emotion.
Every liberal deserves an abortion.

Logically viewed, she did a good thing.
Cuck genes removed from gene pool.
99% chance cucks would be voting liberal.

There is nothing a woman finds more revolting than a cuck, and for good reasons.
She killed his son because she was utterly revolted at the thought of bringing such a genetically defective cuck baby into the world

Never touch a whore with a batch of kids from assorted men.
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Just because the father was a mislead cuck, doesn't mean the baby would have been. And I don't think there is such thing as "cuck genes" anyways; just men that are being used and strung on by deceptive women who kiss and assure their man they have "nothing to worry about" to their face, while sticking their ass out for any "real man" that comes along. I have a few men in my extended social circle right now, whose women are doing this with me. it makes me sick.

Remember: any man is only a better man coming along away from being potentially cucked. it's easy to be cold and judgemental until it happens to you.

Men need to look out for each other and show compassion towards one another. I'll take the respect of a good man over the cheap ass of a two timing whore anyday
 
Aldarion said:
No, it has to do with the economics. From your article:
www.osw.waw.pl

Ukrainian oligarchs in wartime

Russia’s military invasion has contributed to a major decline in the role of oligarchs in Ukraine. This is largely due to the fact that domestic political rivalry both in the media and in parliament has ceased, which in turn has reduced the role played by those spheres of life in which their...
www.osw.waw.pl www.osw.waw.pl

In short, they are patriotic because Russian invasion is hurting their bottom line.

Western elites, who are largely transnational, would not act like that.
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So de facto the same reason royalty and nobility had back in history?
Then here you have it.
The "transnationality problem" seems to be something that neither monarchy nor democracy can easily deal with. You pretty much need to either have some kind of nationalist government (in democracy, got to elect a nationalist party, in monarchy, well, be lucky with the royal family i guess) or the country has to be a global pariah like North Korea.
Aldarion said:
Probably. But the democratic alternative is hardly working well for the First World, seeing how our own governments are doing their level best to destroy the people they are supposed to be representing.

That sounds really nice. Problem is that it doesn't exist.

Different political parties with different agendas? I'd really like to know where these live. All major political parties in the West have, ultimately, one agenda: destroy the West. So what exactly is there to choose between? In the US, both Democrats and Republicans did what they could to block and destroy Trump. In France, all political parties not FN came together to block Le Pen from presidency. In Croatia, all major political parties are a collection of Communists, UDBA agents and Chetniks.

All major political parties in the West are Communists. All major media houses are also Communists. The choice said "civically minded citizenry" is making is an illusion, much like a pig choosing between services of two butchers.

So where you make a choice?
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>major
Here's the problem. Many have smaller parties that aren't, and most of the major ones only got subverted no more than few decades ago from leftist infiltration, while, at least in theory, in democracy it is possible for small parties to become large, and large parties to become small (happened in Poland to socialdemocrats, went from ruling party of several times to ~10% party).
It's definitely a dysfunctional system when this can't happen despite public dissatisfaction with the large parties, but it was functional when the choice did exist, and still does in countries that don't have this established party subversion problem on such large scale.
Aldarion said:
Regarding poverty, democracy / republic is a consequence of a strong middle class and relatively equal division of property, not its cause.
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Which is a result of stable, reasonable and functional law&order plus relatively free and stable economic policy.
Technically almost any government can do that, but the incentives and reasonings will vary and so it seems fairly rare overall.
Historically if a monarchy does it, it looks like it soon stops being a monarchy or turns into a figurehead one, so, probably monarchy is a poor choice for promoting it.
 
mrttao said:
Democracy worked for a little while, then the aristocracy solved it. And all democracies became fake democracies.

How to solve democracy:
step 1: Using central banking the rich literally print infinite money. letting them steal from the poor and give to themselves via the mechanism of inflation.
step 2: Using printed money, they buy all "free media". as well as bribe / buy all institutes in society as well. Umbrella corporations become norm.
step 3: Using owned media, they control the narrative via censorship and nonstop propaganda pretending to be news.
step 4: give women the vote because "muh human rights".
step 5: get women to vote for retarded stuff that destroys society.

result: democracy/republicanism doesn't work anymore.
Modifications to the system would be necessary if democracy is to ever be attempted again.

This is not impossible mind you.
Make sure to use a constitutional republic that explicitly requires something like 90% majority to change "sacred tenants". rules like:
> no women voting
> no fiat money
> no fractional reserve
> must allow citizens to immediately recall all elected positions
> must allow citizens to vote to directly repeal any law / bill passed. all it takes is a 30% voting to repeal a law to actually repeal it
> corporations are not people
> no bailouts, ever
> crack down hard on corporations who censor political opponents

maybe a few others.

It is doable, but would have to be in a successor state.
western civilization is already dead.
but the lessons we learned from it were valuable.
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By any chance, have you read Baron Evola?
 
mrttao said:
step 1: Using central banking the rich literally print infinite money. letting them steal from the poor and give to themselves via the mechanism of inflation.
step 2: Using printed money, they buy all "free media". as well as bribe / buy all institutes in society as well. Umbrella corporations become norm.
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I wish more people realized this shit took place, if you can print all the money you want without limit, they're sure as hell going to exploit that fact.
They just print a fuckload and give it to their buddies, which from a monetary standpoint robs from the poor. People bitch and moan about inflation without realizing it's not just inflation effecting everyone equally, the rich are getting RICHER from said inflation.
 
Yinko said:
Anyone who has most of their assets invested in things like real-estate or stable commodities gets richer from it. It's just that the rich are disproportionately able to do that while also having walking around money in cash.
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Food getting twice as expensive is even going to hit someone who owns a house they're renting out. Food getting twice as expensive doesn't effect Blackrock when said inflation was created via money being shoveled into them for free.
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Food getting twice as expensive is even going to hit someone who owns a house they're renting out. Food getting twice as expensive doesn't effect Blackrock when said inflation was created via money being shoveled into them for free.
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Fair, but inflation also affects a lot of companies and corporations, especially the ones that don't have the right connections. I know for a fact that there were entire industries, controlled by a handful of multinationals, which received no aid and were utterly gutted by what happened. To the point that the corporate VPs were doing extra shifts in the warehouse to keep things moving.

It's not necessarily about being a rich corpo type, it's about being a connected corpo type.
 
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Weimar bros here we come!
 
ThatZenoGuy said:
Imagine being such a shitty fucking parent that you're worried your daughter is going to OD lmao.
Dude needs to grab the big belt and use it properly.
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Seriously. If you are utterly incapable of raising your children in the city, then raise them somewhere else. Honestly, this doesn't even surprise me, there have been plenty of articles of parents using their children for social or political clout, what's one more?

He's the rep for WA 3rd district, which is basically Vancouver. Vancouver is right across the river from Portland, where he was born.
 
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