Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

Jormungandr said:
Or at least manslaughter charges with a $20,000 fine. Real consequences, enforced ones, will nip all this terrorism in the bud.

Also, the Palestinians are Hamas, and Hamas are the Palestinians. Just because Gaza is now regretting their life choices in being death cultist scum now that Israel is turning the Strip into a parking lot, doesn't absolve them or lend them any sympathy.

If the Palestinians were winning this little "war", there'd be no regrets from them.

Fuck Palastine.
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agreed, personally I'm just waiting for the day when the normies finally have enough of this shit.
 
Cherico said:
agreed, personally I'm just waiting for the day when the normies finally have enough of this shit.
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A week or two ago an old 70something lawyer shot dead an eco terrorist who was blockading the road and creating a massive traffic jam.

so... its starting. shame the lawyer will probably go to prison instead of receiving a medal
 
Cherico said:
agreed, personally I'm just waiting for the day when the normies finally have enough of this shit.
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I am doubtful. And I’d argue that waiting too long for them to catch up is a mistake and that playing too hard at ‘muh optics’ is also a mistake. Remember, most of these people still trust the MSM. Our ‘side’ could come up with the cure for cancer and the MSM would still twist it to make us look evil. Yes, that includes Fox who are at best controlled opposition.
 
DarthOne said:
I am doubtful. And I’d argue that waiting too long for them to catch up is a mistake and that playing too hard at ‘muh optics’ is also a mistake. Remember, most of these people still trust the MSM. Our ‘side’ could come up with the cure for cancer and the MSM would still twist it to make us look evil. Yes, that includes Fox who are at best controlled opposition.
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Good Lawgic put it in a good way for me. "CNN tells you what you should believe. Fox News tells you what is acceptable to believe." if you are trying to push further past what the pundits on FOX say? you are an extremist with far right views.
 
mrttao said:
A week or two ago an old 70something lawyer shot dead an eco terrorist who was blockading the road and creating a massive traffic jam.

so... its starting. shame the lawyer will probably go to prison instead of receiving a medal
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He should go to prison. It was an unlawful shooting. And he killed 2 people; theb2nd died at the hospital.
 
mrttao said:
A week or two ago an old 70something lawyer shot dead an eco terrorist who was blockading the road and creating a massive traffic jam.

so... its starting. shame the lawyer will probably go to prison instead of receiving a medal
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It was an unjustified shooting and a case of road rage. He deserves the electric chair.
 
Blasterbot said:
Good Lawgic put it in a good way for me. "CNN tells you what you should believe. Fox News tells you what is acceptable to believe." if you are trying to push further past what the pundits on FOX say? you are an extremist with far right views.
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Most of us are only ‘far right’ in the sense that we aren’t neo-‘conservatives’ and realize that the current economic and political situation in the west isn’t sustainable and hasn’t been for a while now. And that steps should be taken to fix it. Ideally peacefully.
 
Husky_Khan said:
I never made a legal statement. I said.

You're not allowed to assault people in defense of other peoples property typically.
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That is a legal statement, unless you are just talking morality?

Husky_Khan said:
Furthermore they aren't merchants or security guards. This isn't shoplifting. And they obviously acted provactively. Maybe you can look up the "legal statements" on that or maybe you should be the one not making legal statements
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It doesn’t matter if they are not merchants or security guards. Why are you trying to deflect when you are shown to be wrong?

Also so what if they were provocative? Pretty much every protest is provocative to someone. Show where they committed a serious crime or show where they were threatening someone. If you can show them threatening Jews I will accept that also.

Husky_Khan said:
The thread is about AntiSemitism. Burning an Israeli Flag in a pro-Hamas protest is AntiSemitism in front of a bunch of Jewish students at a University where a large plurality of the student body is Jewish is Anti-Semitism IMHO.

But just to be clear you think driving your pickup truck through the middle of a group of people multiple times with minors in the back and having one of them set a Jewish flag on fire in front of them is "justified" and not "anti-semitism" and "law biding" and "not a wrong action" in your opinion seems suspect to me. But I'm glad you came out to defend the pro-Hamas instigators as just and good in yet another thread derailment.
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Now this is pure slander. Prove this guy was supporting Hamas. Sorry to disappoint you and the Israel lobby but being against Israel and pro Palestine doesn’t make one a Hamas supporter or a hater of Jews anymore than being against the CCP and pro Taiwan makes you a hater of Chinese.

Americans are allowed to protest and burn flags of foreign nations the Israeli supporters are allowed to burn Palestine flags and the Palestinian protesters can burn Israel flags.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
That’s lovely and all, but this man literally murdered people.

The Just Stop Oil crowd are morons who might need a tooth or two smashed out but they don’t deserve to die.
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This cuckservatism is why conservatives keep losing. The problem is that guy took the law into his own hands.

I support protestors as long as they aren’t blocking society from running. The government should have the harshest punishment for those who block roads and other things that prevent society from functioning.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
That’s lovely and all, but this man literally murdered people.

The Just Stop Oil crowd are morons who might need a tooth or two smashed out but they don’t deserve to die.
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They do deserve to die.

Blocking the roads is not some "harmless victimless crime", it literally kills people.
Ambulances are blocked, fire fighters are blocked, organ donor trucks are blocked.

We literally just had an article about how hamas blocked the road in america and 3 organ donor delivery vehicles were blocked. spoiling the organ and leaving the 3 people who were going to get a transplant without an organ. Effectively 3 murders

And I recall more than once cases of people dying because ambulances or firefighters were blocked due to demonstrations.
 
King Arts said:
Now this is pure slander. Prove this guy was supporting Hamas. Sorry to disappoint you and the Israel lobby but being against Israel and pro Palestine doesn’t make one a Hamas supporter or a hater of Jews anymore than being against the CCP and pro Taiwan makes you a hater of Chinese.
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No, its like saying that being anti Ukraine and pro Russia doesn't make you a Putin supporter.
Technically not necessarily, but in reality, it's a meaningless distinction for practical purposes outside of intra-Russian politics.

If you are going to take Palestine's side in the existing conflict, distancing yourself from support of its existing and popular beyond the level of most of world's governments political stances, leadership and militants requires some serious mental gymnastics and looks like easily seen through PR cover.

Likewise, none of the major factions (at least) of Palestine itself are particularly interested in engaging in the kind of mental gymnastics that some of their western simps do to avoid the "Jew hater" label, so unfortunately you are stuck doing that yourself.
The comparison to CCP-Taiwan conflict is horribly bad and demonstrative of massive ignorance as they are having merely a conflict of ideology and political power, not an over millenium old ethnoreligious conflict like the Palestine-Israel one. Ever heard them shouting "Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud" at the anti-Israel protests, what do you think that means?

The Palestinian side itself, regardless of what more or less related stances their non-islamic simps craft, hates the Jews regardless of their political or even national identity, and they are quite vocal about it in fact, if you want to support them you have to deal with the reality of Arab street-Jew relations rather than wishful, more politically convenient theoretical state of them.

In other words, if you want the pro-Israel to act as if the Arab side was chill, reasonable and pragmatic in this conflict, you would first have to convince that side to be that, because we aren't up to pretend.
 
mrttao said:
They do deserve to die.

Blocking the roads is not some "harmless victimless crime", it literally kills people.
Ambulances are blocked, fire fighters are blocked, organ donor trucks are blocked.

We literally just had an article about how hamas blocked the road in america and 3 organ donor delivery vehicles were blocked. spoiling the organ and leaving the 3 people who were going to get a transplant without an organ. Effectively 3 murders

And I recall more than once cases of people dying because ambulances or firefighters were blocked due to demonstrations.
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there is a pretty easy solution, if you protest in the middle of the road and get hit then thats on you. People would stop it real quick if people started becoming speed bumps en mass.
 
mrttao said:
They do deserve to die.

Blocking the roads is not some "harmless victimless crime", it literally kills people.
Ambulances are blocked, fire fighters are blocked, organ donor trucks are blocked.

We literally just had an article about how hamas blocked the road in america and 3 organ donor delivery vehicles were blocked. spoiling the organ and leaving the 3 people who were going to get a transplant without an organ. Effectively 3 murders

And I recall more than once cases of people dying because ambulances or firefighters were blocked due to demonstrations.
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Supporters of Malthusian degrowth policies deserve extermination, because they are literally supporting policies that could make our own lives too difficult and impossible to endure.
 
Look out, we have badasses over here.

Are you actually saying you would personally walk up to these feckless teenagers who don’t actually mean you any harm, put the gun to their head as they cry, and pull the trigger?

If so, congratulations. You’re a monster.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
Look out, we have badasses over here.

Are you actually saying you would personally walk up to these feckless teenagers who don’t actually mean you any harm, put the gun to their head as they cry, and pull the trigger?

If so, congratulations. You’re a monster.
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No.:confused:

Did you not read what we wrote? I said the government either police or military would go up to those protestors and if they don't disperse then use force including lethal force.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
Look out, we have badasses over here.

Are you actually saying you would personally walk up to these feckless teenagers who don’t actually mean you any harm, put the gun to their head as they cry, and pull the trigger?

If so, congratulations. You’re a monster.
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I see these roadblock "protests" as low level economic terrorism through illegally, physically blocking travel routes widely used to transport goods and people in pursuit of radical political goals.
Financial terrorism (also known as economic terrorism) most commonly refers to the secret manipulation of a nation's economy by state or non-state actors.[2] However, economic terrorism may also be unconcealed, arguably in the name of economic sanctions.[3] Economic terrorism targets civilians of nations or groups in the pursuit of political aims.

Terroristic attacks against ports and land borders cause extra measures to be implemented to ensure the safe arrival of the product. These measures force the cost of exporting and importing goods to increase. Emerging economies are the most affected, because the slowing of exports and imports will affect the country's ability to combat poverty. An increase in poverty can cause revolts among the population and possible political destabilization, forcing an even greater increase in poverty.[4]

To counter piracy, governments and maritime industries must take preventative measures. The United States Maritime Administration says "These actions may include a larger military presence in high-risk areas, rerouting ships to bypass the Gulf of Aden, paying higher insurance premiums, hiring private security guards, and installing non-lethal deterrent equipment." The cost of these preventative measures is passed on to consumers and tax payers, ultimately directing money away from other areas of the economy.[5]
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Now in this specific case the guy in question went beyond legal definition of self defense and probably into the definition of vigilantism, but that doesn't change the fact that in an ideal world the police should be removing such roadblocks instead, and with lethal violence too, if need be.
 
Marduk said:
I see these roadblock "protests" as low level economic terrorism through illegally, physically blocking travel routes widely used to transport goods and people in pursuit of radical political goals.

Now in this specific case the guy in question went beyond legal definition of self defense and probably into the definition of vigilantism, but that doesn't change the fact that in an ideal world the police should be removing such roadblocks instead, and with lethal violence too, if need be.
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Having all of them arrested for terrorism would be very appropriate.
 
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