You just said it again. You say the real losses are much higher, so the data is not comprehensive according to you. Do we need to go through this please quote me cycle when you pretend you didn't say things you said just to waste my time?
Yes, because this is what started that quote chain and has nothing to do what what you're saying it means now:
So one source for comparison is shit and the other one is also shit, so what's the point of it?
You've switched what you were arguing on half way through this. Perhaps take a breath, and then calmly explain-ideally with quotes of what I said-what you're attempting to argue on.
No, i will not use Mediazona because it is not comprehensive data, and i have no use for a floor and i'm not interested in such statistical voodoo as trying to guess the upper limit from a floor.
In other words, there is no objective basis that you place your opinions on and thus it would be rational to dismiss your claims on that basis.
Sorry, imagine whatever number you want and live in your own world in your own head, but i will not never take your imaginary world seriously, if you write about it on the forum i will mock it.
I am also not the subject of this thread.
Then perhaps quit derailing by making it about me?
Are they paying for regular, centimeter grade resolution angled sat photos of all graveyards in Russia?
I would love to see that...
Who says they have to? To be burying hundreds of thousands of bodies would be obvious from the logistics alone, as would the massive amounts of burial ground expansion that would require.
No, that's ua-en google translation claiming "relatives and close friends", and google translation cannot be trusted in such matters, if you think otherwise, that says things about your competence in such things only.
No, it's literally quoted from the article and you can run it through multiple different translators if you want or email KIIS, they'll tell you the same. If you feel otherwise, please quote the correct translation in your opinion.
And wtf does household size have to do with average number of cousins, do all the cousins you have live in the same physical building you do? I live with no cousins in the household, all live in different towns and cities, few even in different countries.
Because if the average family size is ~2.6, that means you're only going to have one or two cousins at most. Nowhere near the nine you claimed. If you feel otherwise, please cite something about Ukrainian family size.
Okay, then having been able to run it through a translator of your choice, do you concede on the previous point?
No, it would not necessarily mean that.
It literally would, however. If you feel otherwise, please explain.
Questioning your guesswork.
That's certainly fine, but are you going to start answering my questions too?
No, shitty google translation of the title specifies that.
Okay, then having had the opportunity to run it through the translator of your choice, what does it actually say then? Please quote it for us all.
No, they aren't largerly in western regions, they are only a bit higher in western regions.
But it literally is, 52% in the East say they have lost someone vs 69% in the West, that's roughly 30% more in the West than East.
Also statistically it's junk, as there is massive variation in what different people define as " relatives and friends".
For example this says average Brit has 40 friends.
Except the poll, once again,
specifies close friends, not just friends. Do you have any sources on Ukraine to suggest they consider more people as close friends than elsewhere?
ORGANISER, Oracle, Elephant, Maverick, or Steady Eddie... which friend are you?
www.express.co.uk
Add to that the emotional charge of a war applied to defining those relationships - "oh this guy i know died in the war, so yeah i totally lost a friend", and this is basically an exercise in futility to try estimate losses from such a poll.
There's no evidence that's the case, because they can't claim someone was a friend if they literally didn't know them; otherwise how would they know they died? Taking the claim at face value, however, let's go with this number you've provided.
35 Million Ukrainians Pre-War, 63% of that is ~22,000,000 and dividing that by 40 is 550,000 KIA and WIA. Take in note, the average Ukrainian knows
three people who have died, but I'm not factoring that in.
Well the question is about whether they know a person who died, that includes friends who live in the East. Is it not a thing to have friends living in other parts of the country where you live?
It certainly is, but we already pointed out the statistically impossibility of that being the case because KIIS the Pre-War areas are only 9% of the population and a large percentage of them became refugees and thus aren't dead.
Also remember those massive long range missile strikes that are leading to depletion of Russian stockpile of such? Obviously long range missiles aren't used for the frontline, much shorter ranged ones reach there...
Which would be hard to imagine, given the claimed interception rate on said missiles is 90% and you noted the depletion of said missiles, so how exactly were they killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians if they didn't exist?
