Carrot of Truth
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Why can't homeless people in LA build that?
Because the government wouldn't let them. In slums where the government kind of just doesn't give a fuck you get this result.
Fallout Perpetual Debate of Bethesda Versus Interplay/Obsidian Fallout World Design
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Because the government wouldn't let them. In slums where the government kind of just doesn't give a fuck you get this result.
Scooby Doo
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Kinda looks like the ones made in FO4.Because the government wouldn't let them. In slums where the government kind of just doesn't give a fuck you get this result.
Cool how you acknowledge an outside factor would prevent people from building something nice then ignore the same applies to Wastelanders having to deal with mutant monsters or supermutants or raiders or synths/slavers.
Scooby Doo
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Yeah all the goofballs saying MUH 200 YEARS!
Ignore that the radiation in FO verse canonically lasts much longer than in real life
Rad Storms make the radiation in water so potent that people have to use Rad X drugs to survive off of it.
And 500 Rads is JUST from the storms that now naturally occur in Fallout East Coast. When the fuck did the West Coast have to worry about rad storms that turn people into Ghouls?
:v
Carrot of Truth
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People built better stuff in the middle ages even though there was constant roving bands of men that were looking to plunder rape and murder. It was especially bad for people living in eastern Europe.
Scooby Doo
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Comparing Eastern Europe to this
Mkay...might wanna chill with whatever you're smoking
Carrot of Truth
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Comparing Eastern Europe to this
Mkay...might wanna chill with whatever you're smoking
Comparing a Deathclaw with this?
Might wanna chill on whatever you're smoking.
Scooby Doo
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Remind me the man power and resources that they had again in comparison to the amount of resources and manpower the average Commonwealth people have?Comparing a Deathclaw with this?
Might wanna chill on whatever you're smoking.
Why are you and your ilk specifically obsessed with ignoring factual disadvantages the East Coast had one that there are no historical comparison to?
Carrot of Truth
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Why are you such a shill for Bethesda?
mrttao
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There are vague similarities. but
1. those real slums are vastly nicer then the FO4 drek.
2. those IRL slums are built by the lowest rung of society (the homeless) on their own. while the FO4 structures are the peak of what their society can make (the lowest rung is homeless raiders)
Scooby Doo
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How's it shilling to point out Death Claws are more dangerous than some thugs with knives?
It's your irrational hated for Bethesda that has you dying on a hill of stupidity
Don't those things actually collapse and kill people below lmao?
Sure
Carrot of Truth
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Whatever shill.
Scooby Doo
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Concession accepted, you don't know Fallout lore
mrttao
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Which still makes them less lethal than the fallout homes should be
The institute is an entirely seperate society.Sure
Completely isolated from the wastelanders.
This would be like if the entirety of canada had nobody able to build housing, and you point me at USA building nice modern homes.
Except canada and usa actually trade with each other.
So... in this hypothetical, most canadians think the USA is a conspiracy theory that does not actually exist.
Scooby Doo
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I don't recall any settlements killing people in Fallout from structural failure, do you have any examples?
The Society is the Commonwealth, the Institute are the upper tiers of it.
A separate society would be outside the Commonwealth
Nah you're grasping at straws lmao, the Institute even involves in the affairs of others in the Commonwealth and has an operative as mayor of Diamond City.
You just don't like the fact that Bethesda wrote a faction that can build better than the NCR with less time and resources
Who would have thought that a well educated faction with a lengthy peace period can build wonders?
Scooby Doo
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Let's not forget the same people that built Shady Sands wasn't able to build a single building in the Mojave because of all the Fiends and Caesar's Legion.
And they had 1,000+ NCR soldiers being sent there for years and couldn't build shit.
"Bethesda doesn't understand!!!".
It's simple.
When you have an easily defensible position you can build like crazy.
When you are not fending fir your life, you can build loke crazy
mrttao
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I said "should be" not "are canonically".
as per earlier discussion about exposure in the winter, and rad roaches.
FO4 has settlements that should be extremely lethal, but are somehow safe because the devs said so.
The institute is not part of the commonwealth. it is wholly sealed off.
The institute is secretely involved in the commonwealth's business. but not vice versa. they do not trade. they do not have explicit fixed borders. the commonwealth citizens do not even know it exists. it is a secret society hidden in secret enclaves underground
Do the settlements in Fallout 76 have a similar art and design style as the ones in Fallout 3/4?