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    Catholic bullshit and defenses for it

    I never said anything about the early church "not having saints". If you're trying to have a good faith discussion with me, then please don't put words in my mouth and then act affronted by things I never said. If that's how you are going to approach this discussion then I'm not going to waste...
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    Catholic bullshit and defenses for it

    You shouldn't pray to family members who have passed, certainly. That's called ancestor worship, and is a form of paganism. Well some examples that come to mind are when Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego refused to fall down and worship King Nebuchadnezzar's golden image in Daniel 3, and when...
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    Catholic bullshit and defenses for it

    No one here is insulting Mary. If by "veneration" you mean treat Mary with the kind of reverence that the Bible teaches is reserved only for God, then no, it's not appropriate. No, because Jesus is given that title in Holy Scripture. The title "queen" is never ascribed to Mary in Scripture...
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    Catholic bullshit and defenses for it

    What do you think has been said about Catholic theology here that has been ignorant?
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    Catholic bullshit and defenses for it

    You're one to talk, given that you don't even know who the one God of Christianity is. Also, no, Mary was not "venerated" from the beginning. No early orthodox Christian document venerates Mary. The Bible doesn't do it, the Apostolic Fathers don't do it, the early church fathers don't do it...
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    Philosophy What use is the Black Pill?

    If it's just about truth, that's the idea that's (supposed to be) behind redpill. Truths that go against commonly held ideas in the culture. Ie, the truth that our modern society and legal system in Western countries is biased against men and in favor of women in a lot of ways. Blackpill goes...
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    Philosophy What use is the Black Pill?

    The "black pill" is the logical conclusion of godless, libertarian self-centeredness. A kind of nihilism. It's poison.
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    Woodrow Wilson Respect Thread

    The 25th Amendment is a thing that exists.
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    Why get married

    One, saying Moses had two wives simultaneously because of the reference to him having a Cushite as a wife is a reach. There is never a reference to Moses having multiple wives. The Cushite wife may not have been Zipporah, his Midianite wife, but Zipporah may have passed away and Moses could have...
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    Why get married

    @King Arts brought it up randomly in the other thread too. He seems to have a weird fixation on the idea that polygamy is not forbidden in the Bible.
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    Why get married

    I'm not watching that. And no, not everyone is an overseer, but you're avoiding my actual point and arguing in bad faith. The Bible identifies having more than one wife as something that brings reproach. Yes or no?
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    Why get married

    You acting like polygamy isn't prohibited anywhere in the Bible is itself bad faith and false, on its face. We've had this discussion before.
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    Why get married

    We know from Biblical teaching that polygamy is not ok. We don't need tradition outside of the Bible to know this. We've been over this before. You haven't defeated anything.
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    Why get married

    I'm not sure you comprehend what you think you're agreeing with.
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    Why get married

    My point stands. If you include your daughter's relationship with a woman when you talk about "marriage", you aren't talking about the same thing I'm talking about.
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    Why get married

    You're not talking about marriage as I was talking about in the OP, then.
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    Why get married

    The question that evolutionary biology can't answer. About anything. Sure, it can try to explain why people have cared, historically. But just because people have cared in the past doesn't mean an individual ought to care in the present. Evolutionary biology can't present a reason for anyone...
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    Do you feel having kids is important and is it something that you desire for yourself?

    My attitude isn't actually that nothing matters. Colorles made the claim that having children is all about continuing your lineage; my point is to challenge him to actually give a meaningful reason why that is true. To show that there is some ultimate difference if he "continues his lineage". If...
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    Do you feel having kids is important and is it something that you desire for yourself?

    It doesn't matter how similar you are to your children. Your existence, as a person, is not their existence. They are not you. You are a mix of your parents' DNA, but who you are is not merely your DNA. And none of this will matter once you're dead and gone. You can keep saying it matters, but...
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    Do you feel having kids is important and is it something that you desire for yourself?

    I actually do have an idea of what the afterlife holds, and it's exactly because of it that I said this idea of "continuing your line" is a worldly and selfish motivation. If you have no idea what the afterlife holds, or if indeed you have no real reason to think there even is an "afterlife"...
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