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That Archimedes,who discovered science, still cosplayed as Plato supporter.Besides, as long as they had slavery,even with Aristotle they would not get science.

Very good, and that is how - through Saint Thomas - we finally get science.Problem is, Greece chosed Plato.

No,it is not problem as long as you remember about making experiments.If you only think,nothing would come from it.

I once read "Misja Ramzesa Wielkiego" sci- fi book/my translation - Mission of Ramzes the Great/ when Egyptians started science revolution in 1200 BC,and in 20th century their starship fought bad aliens far away in space/and helped good one/

Contemplation was their problem.Unfortunatelly,Plato approach win,and even Archimedes played Plato follower.And you could learn only so much without experiments.Which Plato philosophy not used.

If making steam and other machines as toys count as science,then you are right.

Even Homo Erectus had technology.No, i am speaking about Science.They as Christians knew,that there are rules of Nature,so they seek them,and,becouse they do not considered manual labour as unfitting,they could made experiments. I read, that Cisterian abbeys were not only first manufacturies...

Relevant,becouse it explain why Aristotle could nod led to science, and Thomism developed from him could.One of difference is slavery in ancient Greece.

Nope.Greek philosophy,with Roman law and Christian morality,created Western Cyvilisation.We could not live without them. I only said,that Greek would never made science,becouse of their slavery.Science could be created only in Western Cyvilisatin,which could not existed without Greek...

No, i am not troll.And i wrote as bad in polish. It is,as @Scotty said - Greeks considered manual work as something for slaves,so they never conduct experiments.An why they should made real steam machine, if 20 or so slaves could do the same as early models ? Althought,according to M.Heller...

Of course, it not started scientific method after all.But one of reason was lack of CHRYSTIANITY - if you think that slaves are tools, not humans, and that manual work is not for philosophers,all you could get are toys, like Heron steam machine.

I knew little about philosophy - but i read Michał Heller/polish priest and scientist/ "Bóg i nauka,moje dwie drogi do jednego celu"/my translation - God and science,2 roads to one goal/ Science could be create thanks to Thomas bringing Aristotle - becouse as long as Christian keep to Plato,it...