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  1. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    From what I can understand, it wasn't. Britain didn't actually see the profits of what they got from WW1 until the mid-1920s from what I remember. Remember, this is the same nation that literally was out of emergency funds in 1916 and required a lot of collateral so the American bankers will...
  2. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    From what I understand, their economy was literally teetering on the razor edge of collapse after WW1, the war had been that draining of financial resources. Remember, by 1917 it was literally US loans that kept France and Britain afloat, not their own financial capabilities (that was well...
  3. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Nope, the reality of the situation was that, by the time the various naval treaties came into being, Britain was effectively broke as fuck. WW1 and the naval arms race beforehand seriously drained the coffers to the point that if another naval arms race of global magnitude happened, Britain...
  4. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Britain was already bankrupt by that point due to the RN's policies draining a lot of its capital. The thing is, the Washington Naval Treaty was agreed by everyone mostly because everyone knew at the time that the US would have been the last nation standing, so to speak, because of its economic...
  5. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    You've also got to remember that CVN-65 was a bunch of firsts in the first place... Then someone has been giving me some seriously bad information then. :\
  6. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    From what I've heard, yes. To a point. Yep, fits with what I've heard. You've got to cut the designers some serious slack here, we're talking about the very first surface vessel with a nuclear powerplant in the history of mankind and literally the second nuclear-powered naval vessel period...
  7. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Yeah,... ... and the man couldn't wrap his head around the fact that due to the rapid pace of technological advancement in naval design, ships were going to grow larger on principle. The Age of Sail wasn't known for its rapid advancements like the Age of Steam.
  8. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    It's Congress, whose members tended to be made up of those like Benjamin 'Pitchfork' Tillman (who was stupidly racist even for his own time and even had a battleship design named after him) than pro-military men for the longest damn time.
  9. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Yeah, and the USN was made to suffer Congress's penny-pinching. The sad reality was that fossil fuel plants were simply not that capable as you start going into the really big wattage numbers, and this left the JFKs to be less capable of being upgraded overall when compared to the Nimitz.
  10. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Mind you, this is going off of memory...
  11. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    The short story is that when the first nuclear Enterprise (CVN-65) was first commissioned, Congress balked at the price tag of a nuclear carrier and canceled the entire class then and there. This led to the USN relying on conventional carriers -which are inferior to the Enterprise- and caused...
  12. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Yeah, a lot of the problems with getting the 8" guns on anything are heavily in the camp due to economical reasons. The required bracings for the mount add something of a pretty penny in terms of build costs, the maintenance of the mount and the mounting infrastructure costs a pretty penny in of...
  13. Aaron Fox

    Treaties and Treasuries Oppressing Awesome Fleet Building in History

    Given that the USN tried that back in the day and using ramjet 5" rounds and missiles was far more economical than just a modernized Mk16 (which the Mk71 was). You'll need to have a technological context that has guns to be far more feasible as a weapon in the naval context to have anything more...
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