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You aren't wrong that environmental concerns don't mean much to a person struggling with 5$ a gallon gas and iffy supply chains. You aren't wrong that it is also an issue where it feels hard to justify doing things if the CCP and India will just pollute more anyway. However, there's a...

Oh you are preaching to the choir here. Some of the sanest, more practical, and often best thought out environmental ideas/projects I've seen were ones put forward by conservative environmentalists. Unfortunately those conservative environmentalists seem to be ignored by a lot of their own...

It also had a containment structure, unlike Chernobyl. Fukushima is the fault of the Yak contractor putting the back up diesels in the basement in a tsunami zone.

They broke the 70% return in energy level earlier this year, and some of the new designs seem to have fixed a few of the old issues with chamber wall integrity and mag field confinement. I think fusion can be made to be energy positive, but the engineering needed to get to that point is going...

Not a huge surprise, lots of places are adding EV charging stations to thier parking lots, even in podunk towns in the middle of nowhere. A lot of times it's just a charging station in a Walgreens parking lot, or on the side of a gas station.

No, bio-accumulation is a serious issue that affects a lot of ecosystems, and is a real bitch to handle because removing those chems from the environment is no simple task. There are always trace amounts of stuff like anti-depressants, hormones, and other pharma products that linger in human...

Here is a good example of what bio-accumulation of drugs can do to the ecosystem, and why it's an legit issue that needs addressing.

You might want to read what the CCC says it's goals and views are, before deciding what positions the Right has to take on environmental issues. The link is just a few posts up.

Yep; what they actually say is pretty antithetical to much of the Left; particularly the bit about keeping fossil fuels and holding China accountable.

https://curtis.house.gov/conservative-climate-caucus/ For anyone who actually wants to see what the CCC is actually about. Key points: -Does not deny human activities impact the climate. -Sees China as the main global polluter and aims to hold them accountable -Does not want to do away with...

Well the Climate Caucus is the first step in that direction, even if you refuse to believe it. 90% less crazy might be the best the Right can manage for a while. You won't even have a chance of shifting things without the Climate Caucus, so you should be happy it's now a thing. Before the Right...

Stop thinking that all environmental policies will lead to socialism. That is a brainbug of the Right that has seriously hindered actually effectively curbing the rad-greens. The Right can push back by making sure only sane and necessary environmental stuff happens. The Right however cannot...

I guess I am just going to have to spell it out explicitly, then. The Right does not set the terms of the debate on the environment in the modern culture and political scene. It can curb the worst of the rad-green ideas via things like the Climate Caucus, but the Right is in no cultural or...

@Simonbob the problem is that there is very little way to avoid the topic of climate change when the topic of the environment comes up, because it is something that people are concerned about, including the new Climate Caucus. There are other environmental issues not related to climate change...

Yes, and? Trump was once a NY Dem as well. People switch parties when they no longer believe one side or the other represent them. Or they go Independent like me because they think the two party system is what is truly killing America. Him starting as R, switching to D, then switching back...

I probably am part of the 'grey tribe', if you insist on trying to define and quantify people with politically nuanced positions and beliefs as another sort 'separate' group. Though considering my sister was a Biden poll watcher this election, my late mother worked for the CO Dems for years...

You seem to forget I'm a former Dem too, so that's not going to phase me. You also seem to forget that I've said before that environmental issues are part of what kept me voting D till Trump upset the apple cart. This isn't about 'caving'; it's about recognizing the Dems/Left aren't always...

I would expect a growing number of the youth see environmental issues as a significant factor in who they view as representing their interests or views. Boomers and older are no longer the main demographic the GOP is interesting in catering to. I have little reason to think they are closer to...

I have said before I believe a Green Right is one of the best ways to counter the Left's insanity, while appealing to moderates, centrists, and disillusioned Dems. It is about passion and science, not one or the other. That this Caucus is now a thing just provides further proof I am not alone in...

...how is many fucking times have I type 'the climate changes naturally' in the last few pages, because I've done it at least a few time just today. Please actually pay attention to what I type, because I've spent a lot of energy trying to explain the nuances of the issue. It's the speed and...