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  1. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    @Bear Ribs The article's science seems...well, no obvious gaps in the methodology, though the conclusion I think is a massive reach. I think there may be some issues with Ar-Ar and K-Ar dating that lie in the 'zero Ar40 at initial state' assumption of the equation, which seems...like something...
  2. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Ok, going to read this whole this; been a while since I had to scan something like this in detail. I have I checked out both the abstract, along with conclusion and further research bits (to actually see the trust of the article, and not just a lab work and field notes) and then I will be able...
  3. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Ok, let's go through this a bit, because I see 2 real possibilities here. 1) Un-even radio-isotope distrubution in fresh lava's; this is a know issue. I only have ever done sampling on stuff that was about 50-60 mill old, not fresh stuff, but the fact is most lava's are slightly radioactive...
  4. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    That sounds like somebody made some very dumb mistakes with calibrating lab equipment, or contaminated the samples. The science behind carbon dating and radio-isotope dating is solid; most weird shit with it is usually lab or sampling errors. Because I know about sampling lava flows and dating...
  5. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    All of which has been accounted for in how carbon dating and radio-isotope dating is done. There are specific formula's and corrections to account for non-uniform carbon-12 to carbon-14 distribution and local fluctuations, as well as now the fallout carbon from nuclear tests, and to account for...
  6. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Getting all them together is not as hard as you think, if a planetary body has some form of long lasting liquid and geothermal vents producing gas bubbles on it. Those vents produce bubbles, which could act as the base of the first cell, if it occurred in a nutrient rich liquid with the...
  7. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    The episode is relevant because the Ape Professor is using the same sorts of arguments @LordsFire is using, and they are similarly bunk. As well, it is a source he can hardly accuse of being Lefty or Woke. Dismissing what is said in that vid out of hand, instead of understanding the point it...
  8. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    https://m.dw.com/en/nuclear-accidents-make-mutant-bugs-and-birds/a-19098683 Evolution in action, thanks to Chernobyl's radiation zones. The idea that evolution and environmental adaptation are separate things is part of the problem here. Except there are no alternate theories to the theory of...
  9. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    That's a lot of words to say 'Yes, I am a young earth creationist who is back justifying my BS using fringe bullshit'. I've seen the same BS come from others who tried to act like the geological and fossil record is bunk. Punctuated Equalibrium mixed with the theory of evolution is the best...
  10. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Ok, have you ever heard of the 'Watchmaker God' Theory? Because it posits that the universe is like a watch that the divine made and set in motion in the Big Bang, with the laws of nature built in from the beginning because the divine wanted them there. The theory of evolution and all the other...
  11. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I'm not going to play this stupid game where you put words in my mouth, misreptesent what I said, and make me defend positions I didn't take, which is pretty much all you've done here.
  12. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Because some people do not understand how hard it is for fossils to get preserved at all, have no concept of things like 'geological unconformities' where gaps of millions of years between rock formations mean that 'transistionary' fossils may have been destroyed by natural processes, or that...
  13. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    This isn't about atheism versus religion, you dolt; that you even view it that way is part of the problem. Guppy experiments can show actual, real-time evolution in human life-times: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090610185526.htm This is just the latest recreation of an...
  14. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    They've proven interspecies evolution with experiments with fish and birds that saw changes in one generation to the next. Trying to make this any part of the Right's platform is handing the Left a fucking gold mine of shit to sling against us. Edit: And it would be fully justified shit too...
  15. Bacle

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Oh FFS Republicans and the Right, do not backslide into the 1800s and start acting like evolution isn't a thing. This is not the time to hand the Left such a massive talking point to hit the Right with, particularly when it is such a stupid stance to take as well.
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