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  1. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    In retrospect, suggestions that the solution to a pending crisis is to eat babies probably should have had more people thinking satire than it did. I wouldn't say that. How often have you seen politicians actually call thier own supporters crazy, vs doing what AOC did and just smile and nod...
  2. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    Well, there's also chinese style communism, and we all know that what kind of environmental record that particular country has.
  3. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    China and the Soviet union has thier own histories of tradgies of the commons, the concept isn't inherent to a capitalist framework, and the native american's hippy dippy "live in harmony with nature and use as little as possible" thing is largely a product of Hollywood. Thet were less...
  4. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    What, you think the Soviets were like "hey, we could produce 10000 tons of steel per week, but let's instead just make 8000, just because. Go dump that extra ore over in the lake, we don't need it". The goal of every economic system is to maximize the use of limited resources and produce as much...
  5. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    Given that even communist countries had/have persistent issues with greed, consumption, waste, etc, despite being the exact opposite of liberal capitalism, and that major world religions, most of which are well over a thousand years old contain passages condemning those same behaviors, behaviors...
  6. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    Given the choice between "fundamentally change human nature" and "invent technological workaround to compensate for flaw in human nature", it's usually better to go with the latter, since it has a history of actually working and being possible.
  7. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    I feel like if orbital mirrors and other geo engineering systems are mostly sci-fi ideas that aren't yet viable, going full "who needs earth, let's just go to space" is quite a bit farther out than that.
  8. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    I can't recall any specific instances like that, can you point to any actual example of them doing that? That said, a generally pro-business, anti-regulation policy would be roughly what you'd expect from the average republican.
  9. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    The modern environmental movement grew out of (or is just the same group as) the older 70s and 60s era green movement, and they pretty well started out on the left. That's probably part of why the right didn't embrace them, because they tend to (IMO quite correctly) view the eariler movement as...
  10. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    Possibly, but I have doubts (and this would be less wealth redistribution and more like a progressive tax). The Paris accords and like were basically the old "pay farmers not to plant X" subsidies on an international scale, this would be more like the ISS or some similar international joint...
  11. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    Like you say, It'd have to be taxes. Ideally this would be some kind of international venture between as many countries as possible (since the overall cost is fixed) to spread the tax burden as wide as possible, and if people really want to pass it, they'd try to cut some current spending in...
  12. Battlegrinder

    Conservatism and the Environment

    As far as solutions to climate issues, I think the main lesson to be learned is that while prevention is theoretical the most effective route, it always assumes a level of cooperation and support that in reality isn't there, and efforts to force or convince people to go along don't work well...
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