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  1. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    As I understand it, they're not in legal trouble yet. They have to get thier tax exemption paperwork for the latter half of 2020 filed by late May, which should have all their spending and activity during the protests recorded. After that things get dicy. It's not illegal to run a charity and...
  2. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    BLM co-founder: Charity transparency laws are 'triggering' To be extremely generous, this could be meant more in the sense of "it's hard to actually do anything when people are constantly asking you about paperwork, and having to deal with that constantly wears on you and damages the...
  3. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Ahmaud Arbery Killers Convicted in Federal Civil-Rights Trial | National Review I can't really find fault with Andy's reasoning here. "You have said racist things, therefore you had racist motives in this specific case" is certainly possible, perhaps even plausible. But plausible is not the...
  4. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Yes, but I'm not sure how much it applies in this case. If your department regularly buys up extra crap at the end of the year to use up their budget, that's one thing. If people semi regularly get crushed to death under piles of excess inventory that was only purchased to fill out the budget...
  5. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    I've heard that theory a number of times, but never backed up to the point it passes the smell test. SWAT teams are expensive to train and maintain, yes. But that doesn't explain why cities would go out of their way to use SWAT just for the sake of using SWAT (running the risk of someone...
  6. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    But it has to be, there are situations where the police need to have an the capability to respond immediately with superior/equivalent force.
  7. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    I just explained how the process of deploying the national guard is anything but expedient. Please explain this in more detail, I don't understand what you're trying to claim. It sounds like you're saying you think SWAT is supposed to only be used for kick down the door, take no prisoners...
  8. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Even if the national guard was trained to handle policing duties, which they're not, at best it takes hours to get even a small national guard unit assembled and mobilized, and it requires authorization from the state governor to order that mobilization. It's not feasible to try and replace SWAT...
  9. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    That's going too far in the other direction, and it's actually a worse idea. SWAT teams are actually trained for no knock warrants and it's rare for them to screw it up (it only seems like they constantly drop the ball because no knock are overused and the media actively amplifies every mistake...
  10. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    The flag code has no enforcement mechanism, it says what you should do with the flag but has no ability to punish you for not following it's directives.
  11. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    It's not assumed, on this very page I specifically said it was wrong that leftist rioters are not being child accountable for thier acts of property destruction and mayhem.
  12. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Judges and juries don't control what cases they get handed nor write the law. Looking into the details, he actually got off ridiculously light here, because he wasn't just charged with destruction of property, he was also caught in possession of a pair of "high capacity magazines" of some kind...
  13. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Stealing and burning, which is what screwed him, because property destruction triggers a lot of enhanced penalties. In my state, destruction of property worth less than $500 is a class A misdemeanor, which gets you up to a year in jail, he only got half that. He got off lucky. It is wrong that...
  14. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    5 months sounds about right for destruction of property.
  15. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Ok, this 2nd civil war stuff has gotten wildly off topic. I'll be splitting that off into its own thread, in the meantime please keep your commentary focused on the actual topic of this thread.
  16. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Usually, but "threat to public safety" doesn't mean "likely to reoffend", it's closer to "incorrigible kill crazy manic".
  17. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    The cited law does seem to be more of culture war "haha, see voters, we're totally sticking it to BLM" junk, something that's flashy and easyvto pass but that doesn't address the core issue. If violent offenders are bring bailed put by outside parties and then going on to reoffend, the problem...
  18. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    I'm not sure about the last part, but as for defending even bad officers, that's not unique to police unions, that's all Americans unions. US unions tend to operate in an adversarial manner (as compared to Europe, where appearently they're more collaborative), and in thst sort of system there's...
  19. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Well yes, but "go keep an eye on this person and make sure no one beats them up" is a lawful order.
  20. Battlegrinder

    United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

    Per the article it's apparently just an escort within DC to the airport and back, not on the ground in Minneapolis. 1. The people encouraging/supporting the mobs don't actually go near them, and vice versa. Want to see a bunch of riots end really fast? Have one them get near a affluent...
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