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  1. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    This presumes the Institute has technology worth capturing and repurposing. I'm not convinced they do. House has a plan, yes. The problem is, it's a stupid, stupid plan, and he has just that, a plan. He doesn't have the texh, and he doesn't have the resources. Bear in mind, House's last...
  2. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    It is in fact not true. Yes, and? The brotherhood have always decided that some technology isn't worth holding onto (FEV being the big example), it's not implausible that they would do so here, given the clear ethical issues with synths and the lack of other worthwhile technologies. Lyons...
  3. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    Yes, he has no grounds to trust you. That doesn't excuse him executing you when you're a helpless prisoner.
  4. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    There's no other carrier in DC, yes. Norfolk is practically next door, and could easily have salvageable carriers. Nor would they have to lug the reactor all the way back to DC, the airship already had a reactor install and they could have simply flown it over to Norfolk and swapped reactors...
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    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    I've never been sold on the "the brotherhood stole rivet city's reactor" theory. 1. They never say "rivet city", they say "wrecked aircraft carrier", but will mention rivet city in other contexts. It's odd they would try and obfuscate the name in just this one comment. 2. The brotherhood, even...
  6. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    That's not what his plan was. His plan was to fake being a superhero with his robot and get all the fame and adoration he thought he'd been denied, and then when he's "old and has had his fun", then he'll sell his stuff. He just wanted the fame and, by leaving the playing field after he's done...
  7. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    TNG did have something of an issue with having an individual episode having a good plot, bit thst when put into context of the wider series its nonsense and everyone acts weirdly OOC all the time. To be fair the episode, the Borg were not characterized as the civilization destroying genocidal...
  8. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    I completely understand why the humans were in the wrong in avatar, the entire film was designed to make an in-universe defense of them impossible (at the cost of making an out of universe defense trivially easy), which is not what I intended to do, my point was just "no, they did have some...
  9. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    In fairness to the film, that particular fact was cut from the final script. In fairness to the film's critics, it was cut because leaving it in got in the way of Cameron's ability to slant the narrative entirely against the humans at every point. We were talking about the humans wanting...
  10. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    See, thats precisely why this is disingenuous, because the Na'vi don't consider trading unobtainium to be morally repugnant or holding it to be part of thier culture, they doeven know it's there in the first place. The rules don't require you keep quiet, they require you to express your...
  11. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    Come up with a less disingenuous analogy. Hm, yes, quite a mystery why the rules might frown on unwarranted hostility directed against imaginary space aliens, but have less tolerance toward doing the same thing to fellow posters.
  12. Battlegrinder

    Fictional "Villains" Who Did Nothing Wrong Thread

    It still is the default, it's just that the strong don't admit that's what they're doing. This wasn't "without regard", the humans tried to resch some sort of arraignment to trade for years, only resorting to force as a last resort (and even then, the trade deals only failed because the entire...
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