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  1. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    That list is incomplete and the actual results are slanted in the descriptions. I know of at least five cases dismissed for lack of standing: Kraus v. Cegavske Hotze v. Hollins Donald J. Trump for President v. Boockvar Gohmert et al. v. Pence Texas v. Pennsylvania That is probably not a...
  2. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rupert-murdoch-testimony-trump-fox-b2291016.html
  3. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Even more, by strict reading of his statement it only counts if they took votes away from her. If she proves the Democrats gave themselves votes but didn't reduce her tally, the Judge's rules as stated say it doesn't count. That said, if the Judge actually followed through that way after she...
  4. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    It's not that odd, the facts are there but they are inconvenient for the narrative so they tend to be censored. F'rex here's a 2009 study by the University of Virginia. The results of testing how well people understand their political opponent's position were clear. Conservatives were much...
  5. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Imma pass on the advice I've seen work, don't try to just argue politics, you'll be seen as an outsider and that will hamper any progress you make convincing anybody of anything. Join in reading with our book club, participate in a few quests, post some artwork or stories you make. Being a...
  6. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    That's racist. A reliable chain of custody is something you find in traditional white-dominated democracies, not in ancient Black, Muslim, or Latinx democracies.
  7. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    It can be done but it's extremely rare. The vast majority of counters are other presidents rescinding previous president's executive orders. An Executive Order can't contradict Federal Law, so Congress can pass a bill making whatever the order does illegal. Since the President has around a...
  8. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    So, turns out the Census badly miscounted several states in 2020. Specifically, 11 states were miscounted. A follow-up survey the bureau conducted to measure the national tally's accuracy found significant net undercount rates in six states: Arkansas (5.04%), Florida (3.48%), Illinois (1.97%)...
  9. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Because, again, this wasn't what we were discussing. I made a point about how it's possible to make it slightly harder to exercise a right without it being infringement, and the rather than answer that point you suddenly changed the topic to preclearance which hadn't been mentioned until then...
  10. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    That's really the best you can do? I compared one right to another for difficulty, you tried to change the entire subject to preclearance when you couldn't answer that. These kind of semantics games don't work when anybody can go back and read the posts.
  11. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    That's not particularly surprising given we haven't discussed preclearance and I wasn't answering a statement about it. As is, if you want to discuss preclearance we can, but that's not what I was answering. As is you're basically imputing motives you want them to have on people passing laws...
  12. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Holy smokes, are you actually, really saying that it's too restrictive that North Carolina law requires you to be a resident of North Carolina to vote in North Carolina elections? That's the level of clown world you're digging down to? At this point you're just getting ridiculous. Freedom of...
  13. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    I disagree. Yes, it's utterly wrong and ridiculously misapplied. The case they cite is Arlington Heights vs. Metropolitan Development Corp. The problem with this is that said case was decided in favor of the "Racist" law 7-2. In fact the main thrust of the Arlington decision was that a law is...
  14. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    Let's turn this around a bit. Does it take a major effort for black people to fly on an airplane, buy a beer, rent a home, get married, buy a cell phone, obtain cough syrup, apply for food stamps and welfare, or open a bank account? You can't go buy a T-Mobile using a bus pass. If black...
  15. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    No, of course not. They don't target blacks, that's pretty clear from the actual science and actual practices. You can't target a predominantly urban population without hitting the rural population if the law requires you to go into town to get the required ID. Even if you try to come up with...
  16. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    It's worth noting that a few states have managed to get through "Racist" Voter ID Laws and we've seen their effects. Needless to say, Following the Science doesn't lead where some people want. https://www.ajc.com/news/despite-voter-law-minority-turnout-georgia/3wOfD2SkXmTgRwbySd2ZiK/...
  17. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    You hit the nail on the head. In reality, it has nothing to do with racism, it's all about money. Technically speaking, if an ID is required for voting the state must provide the ID at no charge, it is illegal for the government to charge any kind of fee for exercising a constitutional right...
  18. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    There were so many horses in New York in the late 19th century they caused the great horse manure crisis of 1894. That's the problem with going for feels over reals and "it makes sense" reasoning. https://fee.org/articles/the-great-horse-manure-crisis-of-1894/ Continuing the horse metaphor...
  19. Bear Ribs

    Election 2020 Election Fraud: Let's face it, this year will be a shitshow

    There is no way to make a law that surgically targets "democratic blacks" who are primarily located in cities with bus services, DMVs every few miles, and regular cheap taxis that isn't also going to target rural Republicans who live 50 miles from the nearest DMV and have no mass transit or...
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