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    On the killer robot front, the Robot Masters in the Megaman series are generally fairly evil but the ones in Megaman 9 are convinced by Wiley to rebel because... they're nearing the end of their service life and will be scrapped once their license runs out. Given that they're able to reason out...
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    Far as I can tell, J.M. Barrie thought the Bo'sun was first officer on a ship. Smee certainly appears to be Hook's first officer.
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    How does Illias rate? Didn't play the game but wound up absorbing a lot of the plot from SB. From what I can tell, 90% of the monsters will attack and rape Luka on sight, and a significant chunk of them will then kill and eat him so team monstergirl isn't all that nice. The Harpy Happiness...
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    It is extremely difficult for authors to write characters smarter than themselves.
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    'I am the only man whom Barbecue feared,' he urged; 'and Flint himself feared Barbecue.' -Peter and Wendy, Chapter XIV The Pirate Ship Flint is called out explicitly by name, and it's not reasonable to pick and choose which parts of the sentence are canon, declaring that "Blackbeard" must be a...
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    That's a fair cop, it is a common theory that Hook attended Eton as well and quite likely more common than the Lost Boy theory. It makes no sense, however, because Hook notes that he needs to have good form to be "Eligible for Pop" and yet does not believe he himself has good form, and obsesses...
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    It takes a lot of willful interpretation to get anything but killing out of "thins them out." We know what it means when somebody thins the herd, we know what happens when you thin out the crops, it never involves anything save killing. Given that Neverland affects growing up weirdly, some...
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    Chapter 5 of the book by J. Barrie: All wanted blood except the boys, who liked it as a rule, but to-night were out to greet their captain. The boys on the island vary, of course, in numbers, according as they get killed and so on; and when they seem to be growing up, which is against the...
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    Another good option is the Sheriff of Nottingham. He collects brutal levels of taxes, but he's a mere sheriff and can't possibly have much influence on the level set by Prince John, which are a result of King Richard getting himself captured and ransomed. He wants to arrest Robin Hood and...
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    I would say Lady Eboshi in Princess Mononoke fits the bill. She was genuinely just trying to create a settlement for her people, showed hospitality to strangers, and was fair in her dealings. She was the villain, as I see it, for only two nonsensical reasons. 1: She used gunpowder weapons...
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    The villains of Codename: Kids Next Door are a bit debatable, but mostly that depends on where you lie on the bizarre metaphysics of the world. Adults are, after all, trying to do things like make kids eat their vegetables and go to bed on time. The show itself treats these as hideous evils...
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    The original Peter Pan storiess are extremely dark and almost horror-ish when you look closely at them. Kind of like a lot of old fairy tales. The thing is, Peter Pan murdered any Lost Boy who grew up. Hook is a former Lost Boy who just barely managed to get away (with one hand in the...
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