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  1. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Sounds like Ground Forces still have a role in interstellar warfare then.
  2. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    It does make me wonder what the technology on the invading interstellar spaceship is like. Steam? Oars?
  3. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Am I the only one mystified that one side in this fight explicitly has interstellar spaceships and we're presuming the ground forces have no better than 60s-modern tech?
  4. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Are we still talking about the immediate aftermath of an orbital strike (with EMP to trip circuit breakers) to clear a landing zone for an invasion force? Because this feels more like we've wandered over to the discussion of what happens months after civilization's been bombed to rubble and the...
  5. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    That's not the official Warp Chart. The warp scale used in the TNG/DS9/VOY era doesn't go past 10 which is infinite speed (also if you reach warp 10 you transform into a giant salamander and screw Janeway, with that kind of danger who would be mad enough to go to Warp 20?). If we want to use...
  6. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Note that Voyager episodes were inconsistent as Tartarus when it came to how fast the Warp Drive was, like just about everything else Voyager. In the episode Emanations they traveled 0.6 light years in 2-5 seconds at Warp 7, yielding a speed of 4,000,000-10,000,000C for that factor. In the...
  7. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Yeah, the thing about a fleet maneuvering around to try to get people to fuel up their rockets and waste it is that the fleet is going to be wasting way, way more. Not only all their fuel from traveling through space and apparently having to spend more fuel coming to a stop and then starting...
  8. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Fair enough.
  9. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Why the heck would that ever be considered useful? It's an out-of-print RPG with little in common with the other settings besides the names. You really need to get over the idea that every random thing written on some bubblegum wrapper can be taken as definitive truth. The Mongoose game in...
  10. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Let's you and him fight then.
  11. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    I'm aware, the problem is you can't square that reasonably with them also being desperately short of manpower. As I said above, the Imperium says they're short of manpower but acts like lives are cheap and disposable. I don't think Starship Troopers ever really gives us any concrete numbers...
  12. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Part of the issue there is that the Imperium acts like it has infinite manpower and will gleefully toss guys in the meatgrinder for little to no gain. They'll blow millions of lives dying in the jungle to get a few battalions of Catachan Jungle Fighters each year, rather than acting efficiently...
  13. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    The problem with this is that the enemy knows this too, so there're really only three possibilities: 1: They've emplaced sufficient defenses (the manufacturing center is likely a kilometer or two deep inside the asteroid and will ignore your gigaton ka-boom) that you'll lose more trying to...
  14. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Your checks were mistaken. https://globalcomsatphone.com/costs/ Satellites are not cheap business. They cost a lot of money to design, construct, launch and monitor. Just how much money? If you have at least $290 million in your bank account, that money can go into making a satellite that can...
  15. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Yes, that would explain why costs 500 million to ruggedize a basic satellite, not launch mind you that's just construction costs. Meanwhile, you could buy enough seagoing craft to fill a harbor for that. They're in space because you can't see China and Russia's silos from the California border...
  16. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    I have trouble believing space is so much more forgiving, when the temperature can be -300 in the shadow and +225 a few inches away in the sun, the radiation levels are higher than Chernobyl, and an impact with a stray fleck of paint can carry as much energy as being hit by a bullet on earth...
  17. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Really, It's horrifically expensive to build and maintain surface weapons, which have comfortable working conditions, with nearby civilian amenities and life support provided, but somehow building the weapons and flying them through space under very harsh conditions isn't? It seems like your...
  18. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    Energy weapons from space to the surface have the same atmospheric attenuation effects as energy weapons from the surface to space. Kinetics from space to the surface suffer the same friction and will burn up unless they're made from the same miracle alloy (or tungsten) that slugs fired from...
  19. Bear Ribs

    The Role of Ground Forces in Interstellar Warfare

    The only reason we currently think controlling the orbitals means controlling the planet is because right now, we have a great deal of trouble reaching orbit and no surface-to-orbit weaponry, so for us doing so is true. If every random SAM launcher had the ability to hit a satellite two things...
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