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  1. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    French mutinies were about refusal to be sent against uncut barbed wire. Not a refusal to fight per se. Italian invasion of Tunis and Corsica? LOL! Sea Lion territory.
  2. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    So, Greek neutrality trampled by the brutal, aggressive and arrogant Entente, eh? To prop up state terrorism marketing Serbia? In which case any Entente Divisions not-sent-to-Gallipoli-but-to-Serbia will face Balkan Delights...
  3. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    The US did not make "military stuff" in WWI. Not before 1919, as anything it managed to make earlier - besides maybe rifles - was needed for the US Army. In WWI the "arsenal of democracy" was France. Mass deliveries of "military stuff" from Entente - not before 1916. IN 1915 they barely had...
  4. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    The A-H navy, the KKK (Kaiserlich Koeniglich Kriegsmarine), was a farce and a waste of money (as bad as the Regia Marina, albeit - thankfully - smaller). The KKK putting surface combatants into the Aegan to harrass Entent landings or supply is more or less the same territory as "Austria...
  5. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    I believe that you may be misreading the text. The little German I know and knowledge of the context suggests expansion to 41 COMMON i.e. k.u.k Divisions. Enough Regiments (155) are listed as to fill out 39 Divisions, with more than enough independent Battalions for the "missing" two. If you...
  6. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    This figure is with the Honved and Landwehr ... Top of mind the A-H did not pass the 80 Divisions mark at any point of the war.
  7. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    Please check this figure. To me that number looks like the TOTAL number of A-H InfDiv ...
  8. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    Yes. It will be easier and cheaper to talk the Ottomans into reopening the Straits in the near or medium term if there is no shooting war. Lesson learned (?) by 1939 - no DOW on USSR for invading Poland. Then again, Russia/Soviets is a Great Power and White, not a bunch of swarthy ragheads ...
  9. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    Don't get fixated on what's "legal". Might makes right. Look at the UK closing the Channel or the Entente using Greek territory to wage war against the CP. It is "what can we do without getting a DOW in return".
  10. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    I may be having a Senior Moment - but HL is ... ?
  11. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    True. But getting them killed while killing German soldiers is more productive than getting them killed against Turks.
  12. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    The Ottomans were a net gain for the CP. But the Entente and "Easterners" and their French brethen helped by wasting resources on that front. Had the Brits stuck to defending the canal and Abadan they'd have more men for the Western Front.
  13. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    Antwerp was accessible by rail and canal until the Last Days ... Yes, there was some interesting diplomacy concerning access to Antwerp.
  14. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    No idea The warship/military traffic ban came on 4.IX.1914. I'm trying to find a date for commercial traffic - which I'm sure I've seen somewhere ... :) Although me getting something wrong at some point cannot be excluded as well :D As to the OP - IMO an overall gain for the Entente. No...
  15. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    Netherlands closed Scheldt to Entente shipping in August (I think). Somehow no war over that ...
  16. Buba

    What would be the impact if *both* Italy and the Ottoman Empire remained neutral throughout all WWI?

    27.IX.1914 - Turkey closes Straits to British, French and Russian merchant shipping. Looking for further details :) Warships have always been forbidden.
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