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  1. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    The middle class and working class whites within the fly over states as their basis. The opposition are upper middle class professionals, poor/minority and the wealthy elite, centered around the coasts and centers of immigration. It cuts more evenly along racial and religious lines, with one...
  2. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    The Prussian voting system had it economically proportionate, so that poor people had less representatives in politics which was quite smart.
  3. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    That’s not really true lol. It was fairly successful in Prussia and absolutism and their military built Germany. Many Caesars were quite better than the late republic.
  4. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Social cohesion, purpose, bringing back jobs and wages. Economic populism rather than the libertarian free market and free trade.
  5. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    If said freedom is going to end result in the death of and loss of freedom, would you still support those policies, or would you be for restricting some freedom in order to preserve more overall?
  6. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    I didn’t have any larping fantasy, I didn’t talk about how I “want to go out with a joker laugh” and it’s not really any matter what the left is doing, “no elites or leadership, be an AnCap” is exactly as dumb as being an AnCom.
  7. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Was this is just some weird larping fantasy.
  8. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Eh, I mean that might be a factor but I just think it’s in peoples nature to push for their groups interests. If you have nothing that binds you together as american you go to others, and the more disparate your culture and identity, the more heterogeneous the harder it is to integrate...
  9. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Nah, this is just a basic Jordan Peterson talking point that matches up exceedingly well with history and with what we know about humanity and life in general. There’s been many movements over the 18th-21st century that aimed or purported to be entirely from the people, reduced overall...
  10. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Cool, that’s everyone. But you can’t erase hierarchy, as communists have consistently found out. You can just change out who the boss is.
  11. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Yes that’s my point. By your definition it’s all collectivist, always has been, all humans are, and it’s not possible to avoid it. It’s grounded in human nature that we are social animals with inherent hierarchy, it’s just a question of what that hierarchy is and what that social structure is.
  12. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    Lol. There’s no ignorance here, it’s just that this mentality means that fucking everyone is collectivist and real individualism just hasn’t been tried.
  13. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    yeah but that’s the basic building block of that grouping of 200+ million and is how each generation is created and raised. That’s retarded. Murder and genocide just happens, it has nothing to do with “a mob getting too big”
  14. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    you’re alive because your parents didn’t abandon you or neglect you till you died. Somebody did something to keep you alive, even if it wasn’t them. And even if your life was shit because of how others treated you or “in spite of this” that’s hardly a good thing or even remotely proof that that...
  15. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    You do, but it sure as hell was society and your family that did a good part of molding you, and then you participate in said society, and you should ultimately have as a top priority forming and raising your own family, and doing the best job possible for your children so they can do the same...
  16. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    That’s everyone lol. How the fuck are you supposed to raise yourself, after all. People forget we spend so much of our life entirely vulnerable and shaped by those around us, relying on them to raise, protect, teach and care for us, and that making sure that system does the best possible and is...
  17. FriedCFour

    Libertarianism as the Handmaiden to Socialism

    I mean I’d probably be called a “collectivist” but that’s because human nature is rooted in social hierarchy and I value families above individuals and more should be done for them because that’s how a society should continue. I’m also pretty big on the nation and tradition and community, and...
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