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  1. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    I'd imagine the loss will still provoke the Second Crusade, and here the Empire could participate in tandem with the Westerners. If the Rum Sultanate isn't entirely crushed by the time the Crusaders arrive, the joint host of the Byzantines and Latins should be enough to finish them off AND...
  2. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    Most likely it speeds it up slightly; John's death resulted in Edessa falling and if he's tied down in Anatolia fighting the Turks, that's all the same. Most likely no, they'd probably return back to Catholic Europe.
  3. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    I don't, but it does seem likely to assume he will live roughly as long as most of the men in his family. Enough to see the Second Crusade through, with the destruction of the main Turkish polities in the Anatolian highlands, enabling his successors to focus on consolidating it and additional...
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    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    Living to roughly their early 60s or so naturally appears to be common for the Komenos and assuming that for John II carries his reign to the end of the Second Crusade roughly.
  5. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    EB appears to have two different articles, one giving the birth date of 1057 and the one you cite, which gives 1048. Andronikos living into his late 60s appears to be the outlier, though.
  6. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    Alexios I died at 61 or 62, Manuel died at 61; Isaac’s death is unknown, but generally it seems the Komnenos men died in their early 60s. John was already 55 at the time of his death, so living until 1150 would put him at 62.
  7. History Learner

    WI: John II Komnenos focuses on the Turks, 1142-1143

    While listening to an episode of the History of Byzantium podcast the other day, I was intrigued by a rather interesting idea put forth by the host: We don't know for sure what the original intent of John II's final campaign was. Ostensibly, the Emperor was seeking to finally settle the issue of...
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