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  1. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    https://theintercept.com/2024/04/20/iran-israel-world-war-iii/ Gonna be posting a lot of excerpts since they paywalled it Don't agree with everything here. But it is an interesting perspective. Perhaps we've been missing the forest for the trees so to speak and are already engaged in a form...
  2. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Looks like the conflict is settling down. Israel decided on a rather limited strike and it looks like Iran's reaction is one big 'meh', trying to play it off as a victory.
  3. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    And so the clown show continues: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-18/ty-article-live/five-idf-reservists-in-serious-condition-following-rocket-drone-strike-on-northern-israel/0000018e-eecd-daad-a3de-eeff299e0000...
  4. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    SA also has extremely close ties with the US, and through the US, Israel. There is absolutely no guarantee that SA would side with Iran. Iran's allies would more likely come from outside of the ME. I don't even think Turkey would side with Iran, they're more pro-Hamas than they are pro-Iran.
  5. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    I don't think he was saying Iran was Arab, just that there could be an Arab coalition that could be convinced or persuaded to join in on an Anti-Iran coalition spearheaded by Israel and the US. I personally think that would be an incredibly shortsighted move as Iran is unlike any military force...
  6. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    I mean, the US and its allies have been pretty clear they do not want Israel to escalate and if it does - it's on its own. And we really don't know whether or not Iran has a nuke or even nukes - plural. I think it would be unwise of Israel to launch anything more than a proportional strike, if...
  7. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Liberals/left who say America is the most racist country in the world obviously do not know much about the world they live in, mainly because they live in a cartoon version of reality where all the racist and evil and antisemitic villains are moustache-twirling characatures of real-life...
  8. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Iran has far more of a cultural and political influence in the Middle East and North Africa than Israel. Israel is an appendage of the American Neoliberal Empire, nothing more.
  9. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    I find it ironic the Zionists who so vociferously accuse me of antisemitism claim the Jews have near-total hegemony over the Middle East and are uniquely incapable of genocide :P
  10. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Pound for pound Israel would be stronger I guess, but the sheer size and cultural depth with which Iran has sunken its tentacles into the region rivals that of Israel, who likely wouldn't exist if not for their nukes and the Big Stick of the USA on its side. Israel is just so tiny it gets an...
  11. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Eh... Iran could get a nuke fairly easily, and Iran already has a size, strength and strategic depth advantage over Israel and this is assuming Iran does not already have nukes...
  12. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    You're... partially right. The EU regarding Palestine actually consists of roughly three factions: the pro-Israel German-led coalition of EU countries, which are typically supportive of Israel over Palestine, but then you also have a French-led faction that is pro-Palestine and an Italian-led...
  13. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    It really is, I would've expected this from the EU before the US, as they've been the most pro-Palestinian of the Western countries traditionally. Thing is, Israel's new farright government has been thumbing its nose at the US lately and deciding its going to continue to invade and occupy the...
  14. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/sharpened-censure-us-calls-suspected-israeli-settler-attack-terrorism-2023-08-06/
  15. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    So apparently this recent spate of enmity between Israel and the U.S. has been going on for quite some time now, I've just been wholly ignorant of it https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-will-fight-any-israeli-annexation-ambassador-says From this article it almost sounds like the U.S. would...
  16. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    I will repost my edited post, since you're misrepresenting this exchange by not acknowledging it
  17. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    This is all stuff from recently, Harari (not me, mind you) was talking about Apartheid South Africa specifically. Direct your anger at him if you disagree with something he said, I'm just sharing what I've found with the forum.
  18. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/in-lebanon-israel-america-opposite-sides https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-07-16/ty-article/israel-opts-out-of-joining-u-s-condemnation-of-hungarys-new-anti-lgbtq-legislation/00000189-5eaa-de4e-adeb-ffaeb7630000 Oh I pretty...
  19. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-said-discreetly-observing-treatment-of-palestinian-americans-at-israeli-border-crossings/ https://apnews.com/article/israel-detention-jails-palestinians-west-bank-793a3b2a1ce8439d08756da8c63e5435...
  20. IndyFront

    Israel ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ State of Israel Thread

    Palestinians are not a hivemind, once again. I doubt there are even that many rational, normie Palestinians who support Hamas. Their only other real option is Fatah. I'm sure there are probably third parties but they're shut out by the duopoly like in the US, only instead of corporations and big...
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