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Plus, looking at the renders of what they are planning it is only a vague reproduction of the ship that looks like it was slapped together by a total amateur with the prompt '4 turrets, a plane on one of them, two platform masts, and make it look vaguely ship shaped'. It's a playground version...

Especially if Kamchatka is along, then watch out torpedo boats!

I'll have to go dig through my collection, but I have a book that includes line drawings, sail plans, and photographs of half models and full models of all of the US Navy sailing vessels up to the Civil War.

The Mk 110 might be better than a 76mm

There the hell did you get 'I can do everything' when I'm specifically discounting anti-air and ABM missions from the mission list to have a *general purpose* boat, like the SpruCan. No AEGIS, no BMD. Do you even have the foggiest idea what a general purpose destroyer even is in naval terms?

Indeed, in fact I would specify that the mounting points for this system must be capable of being backfitted with a standard Phalanx or SeaRAM system with minimal effort, mostly a crane.

All the Treasury-class was was rebadged Eries, and while they were excellent ASW boats, they were useless at anything else. Also note that the 'kill rate' is deceptive, there were a small number of Treasury-class ships, and they served longer than the various DE classes of which there were an...

There really aren't, just about everything is air defense oriented. Which is fine, but there are other threats, and air defense, especially missile defense, ships are inordinately expensive. What I think we need is a true GP design. 2 5" guns, VLS tubes for anti-ship, anti-submarine, and...

Those are both air defense destroyers. We need a proper general purpose vessel

And completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. I've always had a soft spot for the SpruCans, to be honest. While the Burkes are the 'new hotness', the SpruCans were pure Destroyer, the spiritual successor to the Fletchers of WW2. They were true general purpose warships, and I still think we...

IIRC isn't there then a detent past which is Emergency? I know according to Friedman in US Destroyers that the plant is designed for a 25% margin over rated output for emergency situations which I believe is standard for all naval plants. Is that accurate? Honestly, Bintanarth, Sailor X has...

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Same reason square riggers didn't capsize, tumblehome. Look at the shape, as the ship heels with the wind and waves, it presents less area to the wind, meanwhile more volume is in the water, increasing buoyancy and improving the righting arm. Where tumblehome becomes a disadvantage is when...

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/02/rubin-design-bureau-unveils-new-version-of-its-submersible-patrol-ship/

You do realize that those are cage masts, IE these are USN Standards standing into Scapa Flow 8-)

I love everything about the Standards, both as built (the clean simplicity of lines, and I actually like the appearance of cage masts), as refitted in the 30's, and as refitted post-Pearl Harbor. Each refit made them beautiful in different ways, with as built being clean elegant simplicity of...

People always talk about how 'beautiful' HMS Hood was, but I never really saw it. To me, the quintessential British Battleship was always the Grand Old Lady herself. Of course, I also have an abiding love affair with the Standards, so take it for what it's worth

Bah, all you philistines. The most beautiful of the pre-dreadnoughts are obviously...

Drachinefel does Warship videos... right?

@Tyanna of Pentos hold your tongue! There is no such thing as 'overkill', there is 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'! Haven't you read your Schlock Mercenary? For penancy you must gaze upon...