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  1. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    ...I am honestly struggling for words to explain my confusion here. Who told you this? Because I have never met a creationist who tries to deny the existence of dinosaurs, or thinks they present any kind of problem to either Intelligent Design, or outright Creationism. I may have heard of some...
  2. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    ...Who on earth is trying to pretend the T-Rex didn't exist?
  3. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Oh, it's more than that. The Theory of Evolution as the origin of species through purely naturalistic means is explicitly one of the key tools in the atheists long-running culture war against Christians in the West. Up until the 1800's, not only was the clergy the generally most trusted source...
  4. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Thank you Scotty and Bear Ribs for making my points for me. I've been getting a bit tired of repeating myself, and Bear Ribs has more details on the truth of the fossil record than I do.
  5. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    You're still not actually responding to my point. How does evolution overcome the probability issue?
  6. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    The origin of the numbers is simple. 4 possible values in a position. G, C, T, and A. A number of positions dictated by how long the DNA strand is. It's very basic math. Math that anyone with a decent high school level education can follow. If you see a flaw with it, or can explain why it's not...
  7. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    So you literally have not been listening to the foundation of my primary argument at all. I said, back in March, that even if you account for all matter and all time, you don't have enough to get you life, and the odds are an enormous number of Zeroes long. Like 1 in 10^200,000 type long just...
  8. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I could use this same argument to demand you believe in Young Earth Creationism, much less Intelligent Design. The issue isn't 'it doesn't have all the answers,' the issue is that 'there's definitive things that it has been functionally proven it cannot answer.' Boy, you really don't...
  9. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Selective breeding is the opposite of evolution. It is literally an intelligent actor determining which traits to breed for, and which to not. Further, this was a practice for millennia before the Darwinists came along, in animal husbandry as well. You're actually supporting my point here. If...
  10. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Again with the putting words in my mouth. I'm not going to bother to answer any part of this except 1, because that's the only argument I'm making. Yes, I have focused on the argument of improbability. Because when your probability is less than 1 in 10^230, improbability is the only argument...
  11. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Oh hey, this thread has popped to life again, months later. Not sure what this is supposed to have to do with anything. Is it indicating that you want to go down the 'useful information' discussion trail? This is both putting words in my mouth, and admitting that evolution is a matter of...
  12. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I'm not defending a position here, you are. Give me an example, and stop trying to deflect or distract. I'm not going to take the time to follow a hundred rabbit trails while the primary issue remains unaddressed. For example, in an earlier post I addressed issues of time-scale, and how if you...
  13. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I was going to reply to more of your post, but you know what, no. The post I made with the math was already operating under the assumption that the conditions for DNA synthesis existed, and even under those conditions the odds are obscenely low. You clearly aren't actually paying attention to...
  14. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    No. The evolutionists had 'the fossil record formed over millions of years' into textbooks before the existence of DNA was known. They established a narrative about the nature of the fossil record, and have jealously guarded that narrative regardless of how little the fossil record reflects...
  15. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Because while that's fine for rock, that is not how biology works. What happens if a rock has a slightly-off percentage of silicon, carbon, or trace elements? What happens if the pressure, heat, and other environmental conditions for the rock are slightly off? The answer to both of these is...
  16. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I showed you the math actually done. I am not making contradictory arguments, and I'm not even sure how you come to the point of thinking that I have. Did you actually read the whole post? The dice do have no memory. For materialistic abiogenesis to be possible, there is no scientist standing...
  17. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    I'd been trying to decide whether or not this was worth the trouble, and at this point, I guess I am going to take a stab at it. So, DNA is a chain of four nucleotides, Cytosine (C), Guanine (G), Adenine (A), and Thymine, (T). The full complexity of the way that they connect to each other on...
  18. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    This approach is so far from scientific rigor, it's fit to make a researcher cry. The standard of proof for whether or not a thing is true, is not 'the preponderance of evidence,' (not that Evolution has passed that). It is 'is this reproducible?' and 'has it been falsified?' Did you know that...
  19. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    Again, fitting the data to the theory. So, I'll ask you. What would your standard for falsification of the theory of evolution be?
  20. LordsFire

    Religion Creationism, Evolution and the Bible

    What's it like, being a telepath?
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